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[LowSubmarino]

To remind the community and especially the devs, once again, I want to underline, Mechwarrior Online's biggest problem:

Ever since open beta - I've been playing this game since 2012 I think or even 2011 not sure - there are disconnects in basically almost every single match.

I just connected to mining, in my double gauss/ppc night gyr.

This match runs right now.

In this very second.

I didn't reconnect, cause I discoed exactly when we were dropping out of the dropships. And having played this game for so long, I know, that there is a 97 % chance, that I am dead, when I try to reconnect.

Theres virtually no chance for me to reconnect and join my team, cause Im dead.

Evybody knows that being down one heavy mech - or just one mech no matter the weight class - is a significant disadvantage for my team. For any team.

This happens every match.

Ppl disconnect.

This has happend for well over half a decade and it is still the worst problem mwo has.

And this is also the reason why I will not pay any kind of money for mw5 because the devs refuse to make a statement concerning this issue. They stay silent. This is not how you treat players that like the franchise and play your game.

You just disconnect and it is hummiliating, to then see the window that opens 'do you want to report this bug/crash or close the program'.

Why do you ppl even have such a notification and error message that can be sent to pgi. Are you mocking us?

Because vor how many years have you collected data of crashes and for how many years that never ever changed the fact that there are discos in almost every single match.

I want pgi to know that this is the very reason I refuse to pay any money.

A stable program is the bare minimum of what I expect.

This minimum is not met.

So once again:

Do something about the consisent and continuous crashes in every match. It is über-annoying and im pretty good in the mechs I like. Being down one heavy, being down a player that is very experienced is a significant loss to a team and their chances to win are sifnificantly reduced. That is not my fault though. It is the program which simply crashes all the time. Over and over again.

And it is insutling and simply rude, that the devs refuse to even acknowledge this major problem. Instead, you get penalized for not even trying to reconnect, but it is useless to reconnect because you reconnect to a dead, steaming, pile of burning metal. YOu are dead, when you reconnect especially on smallish maps like mining. Theres no point. And yet I am penalized.

Thats like spitting into my face.

And that is the reason I wont pay money for a game which I would definitely buy, if the devs would at least try to show their effort in fixing this Nr. one problem in mwo.

Amen.

Godbless.

Edited by LowSubmarino, 16 April 2018 - 02:12 AM.

[Kiiyor]

Your millage obviously varies, but i've barely ever had disconnect issues. Maybe one in every 100 matches. Most of my friends report the same.

Every now and again though, some perfect storm of hardware, software, and plain bad luck pops up, and it becomes regular for someone. It's why PC ports for console games are hard; there's billions of combinations of components that need to be taken into account, instead of a very known quantity.

Have you tried all the usual stuff? Running the repair tool, switching display modes, driver updates etc? Or have you contacted support?

[Yondu Udonta]

Why are you blaming PGI when the problem lies with your rig/connection?

[LowSubmarino]

Kiiyor, on 16 April 2018 - 02:17 AM, said:

Your millage obviously varies, but i've barely ever had disconnect issues. Maybe one in every 100 matches. Most of my friends report the same.

Every now and again though, some perfect storm of hardware, software, and plain bad luck pops up, and it becomes regular for someone. It's why PC ports for console games are hard; there's billions of combinations of components that need to be taken into account, instead of a very known quantity.

Have you tried all the usual stuff? Running the repair tool, switching display modes, driver updates etc? Or have you contacted support?

I know that many ppl never disco.

But check QP machtes, mate.

Just check them.

And see for yourself that im not telling stories.

Theres is 1 - 2 discos in 90 % of the matches.

I play other online games and this consistency of crashing is not happening in the majority of other online games.

My rig is stable, always latest drivers, good hardware. All other games crash so rarely that I could say everything else runs perfectly smooth.

Only mwo simply freezes and stops running. Hapens about every 15 - 20 matches. And im not the only once. We have disces in every match. Check QP. Just check QP yourself. Dont believe me, just play QP. Youll see crashes all the time. As I said, in almost every single match.

[LowSubmarino]

Yondu the Ravager, on 16 April 2018 - 02:17 AM, said:

Why are you blaming PGI when the problem lies with your rig/connection?

Hope you are no lawyer or need to present good arguments in your presentatins etc.

Cause what you write doesnt even make any sense.

Read the intital post again.

Im not the only one with this problem. Theres discos in every QP match. Since you dont seem to know that, you obviously dont even play the game.

So why even comment here if you have no idea what you are talking about.

Thats just weird.

Edited by LowSubmarino, 16 April 2018 - 02:30 AM.

[Kiiyor]

LowSubmarino, on 16 April 2018 - 02:20 AM, said:

I know that many ppl never disco.

But check QP machtes, mate.

Just check them.

And see for yourself that im not telling stories.

Theres is 1 - 2 discos in 90 % of the matches.

I play other online games and this consistency of crashing is not happening in the majority of other online games.

My rig is stable, always latest drivers, good hardware. All other games crash so rarely that I could say everything else runs perfectly smooth.

Only mwo simply freezes and stops running. Hapens about every 15 - 20 matches. And im not the only once. We have disces in every match. Check QP. Just check QP yourself. Dont believe me, just play QP. Youll see crashes all the time. As I said, in almost every single match.

Most other online games though don't have system requirements like MWO, which is still very much on the low end of the spectrum and haven't been updated in aeons. Well, except for the removal of old DX support.

Older hardware = more crashes, older game on older hardware = more crashes. Other games crash for me too - pubg crashes like crazy, and has disconnects out the wazoo. Same with fortnite. YMMV.

Also, I have checked QP. I take screenshots of every match for SCIENCE.

In my last 300 matches, 58 of those had a single player disconnect (and stay disconnected - hard to track re connections, but anecdotally, most that disconnect don't come back). That's a hair over 19% for single disconnections.

4 of those matches had 2 players disconnect.

Though I don't track my stats for other games as closely, anecdotally, it's pretty similar, though MWO might be a little higher.

I'm not trying to belittle your problems, I just like numbers.

You should really contact support if you haven't already. They helped me through my own crash spate a year or two back and were actually pretty good, and if you haven't contacted them, yet, they may actually do some good. Can't hurt.

[sycocys]

I would suggest this is more of a network node issue, the only time I've ever had dc problems is when nodes in NY or SF were blown up and I had to do some magical dancing sending the pixies through France or something instead of staying on my continent and going to their servers.

Things like this get multiplied when people are using VPNs, or get shuffled off to a weird node because some silly hacker kids still think DDos attacks are the bee's knees and a server farm has to throttle all their connections.

[Bombast]

While MWO does handle DCs poorly (The reconnect window is tiny and weird and the atrocious mechbay load times needlessly add a minute to your reconnect attempt), I dont think most DCs are their fault. I'm kind of noticing a pattern DC wise, and starting to recognize the names of some people who frequantly DC. That would seem to indicate personal issues to me.

Unrelated, OP, come on. You don't need to hit enter twice after each sentance. Paragraphs please.

Edited by Bombast, 16 April 2018 - 06:24 AM.

[Nightbird]

Over the past thousand matches I've had, haven't DCed once (except when a storm knocked my power out heh).

GL troubleshooting your rig and connection OP.

[Variant1]

huh wierd, my dc troubles only started after the pheonix hawk update, that was 2 years ago. But form your disciption it sounds different then my problem. That sucks that yours was longer, i can definitely relate to your pain since its not fun randomly losing conection to server. I recomend you contact support OP or try using google to find a solution to your troubles as i am.

Edited by Variant1, 16 April 2018 - 06:42 AM.

[El Bandito]

MWO is an unoptimized mess that requires strong rig to play, for a 2012 game. There were and still are many issues that can lead to disconnects/crashes, but thankfully after upgrading my PC and switching to full windowed mode, I am having far less issues.

[Seranov]

I've D/C'd maybe three times since I started playing about a year ago? It's really not a common thing that affects everyone. It DOES seem to affect INDIVIDUALS commonly, which would imply hardware/ISP issues, but you can't blame PGI for that, because it's literally outside of their ability to control.

[Variant1]

Seranov, on 16 April 2018 - 07:02 AM, said:

I've D/C'd maybe three times since I started playing about a year ago? It's really not a common thing that affects everyone. It DOES seem to affect INDIVIDUALS commonly, which would imply hardware/ISP issues, but you can't blame PGI for that, because it's literally outside of their ability to control.

Your right it could just be me, but the strange thing is my problem only started after the pheonix hawk update. What does that mean, dont you agree its a bit strange?

[PurpleNinja]

I haven't played for about three months now but DC were only an issue during events rewarding non participation.

[Kaeb Odellas]

I probably disconnect about once every 40 or 50 games. It's a real pain in the butt, especially since I have over 300 mechs to load in the mechnay beforw I can get back in the game, but I usually am able to get back within a minute.

[Anastasius Foht]

DC once for around 300 last games, was my fault, alt-tabbin web browsin while searchin game, then my PC memory was overloaded (leaked?) and when i switch window to join a game its crashed and i didn't reconnect in time (still win that game after late reconnect).

[Koniving]

While I've had a record of 14 disconnects in a single match... I rarely see disconnects.

That particular day in 2013/2014, one of MWO's servers went down. Which I thought it was pretty interesting, that when one of the servers went down instead of the entire match crashing, just a big chunk of players went poof from both teams.

And beyond that, the match went on as normal as the forums lit up about the crash and a fix happened within an hour or so.

[Metus regem]

I was going to say the one flaw of MWO is their picking and choosing when to try and adhere to TT rules... but seeing as this is about D/C's, I'll just say that it must be you, as I've not suffered a D/C in the four-ish years I've been playing... Though there was that time when people were D/C'ing like crazy that allowed some people to get the Death Star achievement fraudulently, as they would be in a match with 23 D/C's....

[Dimento Graven]

I don't know about the extent of the issue as reported by the OP, HOWEVER, I will say there are nights where I've had at least one team member disco, darn near every match, all night long.

The frustrating part was that the other side would hardly ever have a disco on their side (say one out of every 5)...

[JediPanther]

MWO's biggest flaw is being a minimally viable product while pgi tried to funnel funds into different (gene wise at least) games. Transverse being the first attempt. MW5 being their second. BT is done by a different studio most the most part which a decent portion of that staff is very familiar with BT as it has some of the original creators on staff.