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[FunkyT]

After playing with and against plenty of Fafnirs the last couple days, I just have to ask:

Is there some issue with the Fafnirs CT hitbox?

It feels like Fafnirs die exclusively to CT destruction. I oftentimes die cored out with plenty of ST armor still to go.
Torso twisting seems pointless, if not impossible. I can see that the extruding cockpit nose pretty much prevents torso twisting.
But even before that, I simply cannot believe that every single player out there only hits the Fafnirs CT with pinpoint accuracy. Especially not with spread weapons like LB-Xs and Missiles.

Just how much of the Fafnirs front profile is CT?
With these huge turbines housing the side torso weapons, you'd think only that slender nose in the middle would be CT. But that's pretty much impossible at this point.

What are your thoughts on this?
Anyone got any solid info?

[process]

Check out this thread: https://mwomercs.com...r-centre-torso/

[Dread Render]

Speaking of armor, does the Nova Cat have a CT?
I lost 2x to a Nova Cat who had SRMs and I had AC5s in a Daishi !
I know I pumped quite a few into the CT to no seeming effect.

[Seranov]

FunkyT, on 20 April 2018 - 06:54 AM, said:

Stuff

It sure does, but when your CT is that wide and protrudes outward, twisting is actually more likely to get it blasted than save it from damage. It's actually completely impossible to shield the Fafnir's CT without twisting well over 90 degrees. It's gonna have to rely on Marauder/Stalker/Sun Spider wiggling, but even that won't help terribly much. The Fafnir is gonna have to deal almost exclusively on stupid high DPS builds so you can just facetank enemies down before they blow out your CT.

Dread Render, on 20 April 2018 - 07:02 AM, said:

More Stuff

I fought a 4 LB2X NCT in Solaris yesterday in my AS7-KR and I brought him down by blasting through his CT just before he stripped me of my last weapons, so it's totally doable. I was literally in his face, though.

[Bombast]

This may illuminate you.



So yes. It's CT is that bad.

[R Valentine]

The Fafnir is the exact opposite of the Thanatos, which has sides that are way too big. They both suck donkey balls, though. There is nothing the Fafnir can do that an Annihilator won't do better and stay alive much longer at. It's just another bad IS mech release, which has been par for the course for almost a year now save the god quirked mech I formerly mentioned, and that mech runs almost entirely on quirks. PGI could easily nerf it into the ground with a few key strokes.

[Dread Render]

Seranov, on 20 April 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:

I fought a 4 LB2X NCT in Solaris yesterday in my AS7-KR and I brought him down by blasting through his CT just before he stripped me of my last weapons, so it's totally doable. I was literally in his face, though.

Okay, next time i won't give it any room. Close and Kill, got it.
It must have a very small CT though!

[FunkyT]

Bombast, on 20 April 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

This may illuminate you.



So yes. It's CT is that bad.

Wow. Ok, yeah. No way to miss the CT on that one if you're roughly aiming at center mass.
So (if I'm not mistaken) it has the least CT armor bonus of any IS 100tonner, probably has worse CT hitboxes than most of them and thanks to heavy gauss meta (of some definition), you don't even see your structure exposed because those ~65points beneath the armor will be gone before you know it.

Too bad. I kinda like the Fafnirs aesthetic.
Plus it seemed like a good substitute, since I'm too lazy to buy an annihilator.
I already have King Crabs, if I want to get left behind by the team


PS.
Couldn't find that other post about the Fafnirs CT on the fly, so I opened a new one.
So, sorry for 'spamming'

Edited by FunkyT, 20 April 2018 - 07:26 AM.

[Seranov]

Dread Render, on 20 April 2018 - 07:17 AM, said:

Okay, next time i won't give it any room. Close and Kill, got it.
It must have a very small CT though!

More that its STs are ginormous. Most of the NCTs I've seen have been mid-to-long range builds, so getting up in their faces is probably not a bad general plan, though.

[Yondu Udonta]

Bombast, on 20 April 2018 - 07:14 AM, said:

This may illuminate you.



So yes. It's CT is that bad.

Hell, even its ST from a 45 degree angle looks bad.