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[The6thMessenger]

Shouldn't AMS ammo also have extra due to the Mag-Cap skill?

[Fox With A Shotgun]

The6thMessenger, on 18 May 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

Shouldn't AMS ammo also have extra due to the Mag-Cap skill?

It's not classified as ballistics, though. Magazine Capacity only affects ballistics, even if it would make sense for it to improve ammo count for AMS (since AMS is really just a missile-auto-targeting machinegun on a rotating dome mount)

[Rusharn]

Stil My vote is that AMS ammo should be affect by the magazine cap increase.

[cazidin]

There are many ways to buff AMS.

Adding another skill tax to make AMS competitive should not be one of them. I don't disagree, necessarily, with your proposal, but why not just increase the base ammo per ton if it's a problem?

[Jman5]

Yeah it should. Especially since it will have to compete with the upcoming L. AMS.

[Athom83]

cazidin, on 20 May 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

There are many ways to buff AMS.

Adding another skill tax to make AMS competitive should not be one of them. I don't disagree, necessarily, with your proposal, but why not just increase the base ammo per ton if it's a problem?

Umm... noone made a proposal to add another AMS skill. They were saying to have the existing Mag Cap skills to also effect AMS ammo.

[FupDup]

cazidin, on 20 May 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

There are many ways to buff AMS.

Adding another skill tax to make AMS competitive should not be one of them. I don't disagree, necessarily, with your proposal, but why not just increase the base ammo per ton if it's a problem?

You could say that about literally any skill, really.

Why add a skill tax to having more armor, just give everyone more armor! Why add a skill tax for agility, just raise base agility! Etc. Etc.

It's a matter of letting the player choose which parts of their mech they want to amplify compared to the baseline.

[cazidin]

FupDup, on 20 May 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

You could say that about literally any skill, really.

Why add a skill tax to having more armor, just give everyone more armor! Why add a skill tax for agility, just raise base agility! Etc. Etc.

It's a matter of letting the player choose which parts of their mech they want to amplify compared to the baseline.

I think that you and Anthom misunderstood me. I'm OK with this proposal but, does AMS really need this? Like AMS overload why not just increase the baseline damage or ammo per ton? Knowing PGI, they'd very probably split the magazine capacity quirks in half, to a total of 4, to accommodate this change.

[Insanity09]

Alternatively, if the mag cap nodes don't apply to AMS because it is some other type of machine gun (?), then why not just add a 10% ammo boost to each of the existing AMS overload nodes? (10%, btw, is pretty much what all the ammo nodes in the FP tree give)

[CARNA6E]

The6thMessenger, on 18 May 2017 - 05:18 PM, said:

Shouldn't AMS ammo also have extra due to the Mag-Cap skill?

Yes, yes it should.

[Wyald Katt]

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[James Argent]

Actually, adding AMS to the Mag Cap node IS the skill tax, because you currently don't have to take Mag Cap if you want the most out of AMS.

[Glenn8D]

It is really simple: The skill "Mag.Capacity" is for Ballistic weapons. Since AMS ammo is Ballistic, AMS should get Bonus.
P E R I O D.

[Daveman]

But then about the LAMS? the shorter laser duration from the skill tree = faster ROF = more missile shot down?

[Brain Cancer]

Do people actually search for something a year old, just to post to it?

[Dee Eight]

Brain Cancer, on 25 April 2018 - 10:58 AM, said:

Do people actually search for something a year old, just to post to it?

yes...all the time... that urbie arrival thread hasn't died yet for example