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#1 Mercworks

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 08:44 AM

I've been fighting in Division 3 and I can beat or compete with every mech I've run across except a 6xAC2 King Crab. Even if I use terrain to close in, they can just destroy my armor even when I'm putting out good damage.
I pilot an 2xAC20 King Crab. Any thoughts on how to beat them?

#2 Alexandros

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 11:22 AM

Solutions: 1.Ghost heat on ac 2s or 2. penalty to 6x use of ac OR 3.king crab div 1. See eazy solutions. As I said on my post the players that play crab on division 3 are simple exploiters of the fact that pgi doesn't even care.

#3 Mercworks

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 01:30 PM

View PostAlexandros, on 26 April 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

Solutions: 1.Ghost heat on ac 2s or 2. penalty to 6x use of ac OR 3.king crab div 1. See eazy solutions. As I said on my post the players that play crab on division 3 are simple exploiters of the fact that pgi doesn't even care.

Well, yeah, but how do you fight them right now....?

#4 Teer Kerensky

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 02:39 PM

Are you trying to take out the arms? They have least armor and once it's gone you might not need to kill the arm if you kill the weapons in it faster. What King Crab you have, take SRM too if 6xAC2 King Crab is your most difficult enemy, and try to take out it's arms. AC20 is nowhere near as cool as AC2. If you have the 4 ballistic version I would try 4xAC5 or 2AC5 2LBX10 instead along with SRM, since AC20 pair is hot and more difficult to use.


I haven't played a game in div3 but div1 has similiar problem with 6xAC2 Annihilator, really difficult to beat without having exactly same.

#5 Kalimaster

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 02:46 PM

I use a King Crab in Division 3, however I use AC 20's. I went up against a King Crab with machine guns and a single AC 20, yeah, it won. But still enjoying the game.

#6 Throe

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 03:21 PM

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#7 MischiefSC

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 04:02 PM

18 DPS vs 10 DPS on your 2xAC20.

6xAC2s are reasonably accurate, allowing them to do about as much damage on a single location as you can. They also have vastly more range and higher velocity and none of the ghost heat issues.

Your problem is that the 6xAC2 build is flat out better than the 2xAC20 build. The 'fix' for this is either buffing the firepower on your build or otherwise changing it up to be more competitive with the longer range, higher DPS, just as sustainable build your'e fighting.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 01:01 AM

View PostThroe, on 26 April 2018 - 03:21 PM, said:

I was having a pretty easy time taking out King Crabs in my Stomrcrow, with 4xSRM6+A, 6xERML. Use the SRMs to whittle them down, and then move in with the lasers for the kill shot once you have an open spot. I can't remember if my ammo amounts are correct in the build I linked here, so give or take a ton.



I wasn't specific : On Solo yes I rush with my Mad Cat II (4MED pulse 4x SRM6ARTE) and I can reach them to break the center torso. On Groups though 2 crabs hitting same target makes that impossible. Matches end on spawn point for them. A solution is 2xATM 12 but you cant make a build only against crabs. The division is broken and people are stat padding on an exploit. (cause that is an exploit of terrain and distance.)

Edited by Alexandros, 27 April 2018 - 01:06 AM.


#9 Throe

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 10:28 AM

2v2 is an entirely different dynamic, but the Stormcrow build should still be effective there. A Stormcrow has a massive speed advantage against a King Crab, which still allows you to stick and move in 2 v 2.

#10 feeWAIVER

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 11:36 AM

Solution: run a Linebacker D and chew it's legs off with small pulse and heavy mgs?

#11 Mercworks

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 04:20 PM

Linebackers and Crows don't have near enough armor to fight a King Crab. Two or three volleys and they're toast.

#12 Throe

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:52 PM

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#13 Ph30nix

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 04:06 PM

View PostMercworks, on 26 April 2018 - 08:44 AM, said:

I've been fighting in Division 3 and I can beat or compete with every mech I've run across except a 6xAC2 King Crab. Even if I use terrain to close in, they can just destroy my armor even when I'm putting out good damage.
I pilot an 2xAC20 King Crab. Any thoughts on how to beat them?

if you are running 2 AC20 then you shouldnt be having trouble with a 6x AC2 crab. I run one (6 uac 2 actually) and my bane is
1.Faster mechs with missles on open maps
2. other Assaults with higher caliber AC's (such as your 2x ac 20)
3. fast mechs with JJ in Caves or Mech Factory

my crab vs yours you would have advantage but it would come down to who got first solid hit and who had better accuracy.

#14 Throe

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Posted 30 April 2018 - 04:13 PM

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#15 justcallme A S H

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Posted 30 April 2018 - 05:43 PM

OP - You won't beat a average build vs a good one.

AC2 trumps AC20, unless you get into brawl range.

View PostAlexandros, on 26 April 2018 - 11:22 AM, said:

Solutions: 1.Ghost heat on ac 2s or 2. penalty to 6x use of ac OR 3.king crab div 1. See eazy solutions. As I said on my post the players that play crab on division 3 are simple exploiters of the fact that pgi doesn't even care.


Exploiters?

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How are they exploiting, exactly?

#16 Throe

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 11:10 AM

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#17 SmokedJag

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 05:22 PM

Que'd Division 3 for the first time to go crab hunting with an Arctic Cheetah. Didn't get one or any other assault in three matches but did come across what I believe was a max mobility Linebacker with 5x aSRM6. That thing is *fast.*

Completely destroyed me of course. But now I know what I really want to send in.





#18 El Bandito

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 05:30 PM

Brawler Orion can blast its CT nicely if you can get close. Force him to fight in either Factory, or Jungle, cause the KGC players 100% vote out Caves. Even brawler Atlas can work if your torso twist skill is above average.

Edited by El Bandito, 01 May 2018 - 05:31 PM.


#19 Throe

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:40 AM

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#20 MischiefSC

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 05:15 PM

You can beat a bad player in anything.

A good player in a King Crab runs the table in Div 3. Maybe a poptart Scat on most maps.





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