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[CFC Conky]

Played a bunch of matches last night, got killed once by a PIR, killed two.

*Shrugs*

(Hint, LB20's are your friends)

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 14 February 2019 - 08:42 AM.

[Nightbird]

Paper is OP, Scissors are fine.

-signed Rock

[Racerxintegra2k]

BlueStrat, on 14 February 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

One thing that aggravates the problem is that most of the time in solo-QP the MM doesn't separate Tiers so you have T1s/T2s in PIRs FLEs, and stealth COMs and LCTs matched against low-Tier/new players much of the time.

The flea should not even be mentioned as being close to the PIR league. 90% of the time i see a flea its because its stealth and the last of its teammates to die. It then runs around the map annoying everyone but not actually do anything.

Edited by Racerxintegra2k, 14 February 2019 - 09:20 AM.

[Curccu]

Racerxintegra2k, on 14 February 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

The flea should not even be mentioned as being close to the PIR league. 90% of the time i see a flea its because its stealth and the last of its teammates to die. It then runs around the map annoying everyone but not actually do anything.

And there you are so wrong, ECM/Stealth Flea is annoying... Flea-17 SPL fit is murder in capable hands, more so than piranha IMO.

[VonBruinwald]

Nightbird, on 14 February 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

Paper is OP, Scissors are fine.

-signed Rock

Rock and Scissors are OP, Paper is fine.

-signed Lizard

[Prototelis]

You haven't seen a good fle pilot.

I have a pretty good stack of carry screenshots so far this season.

[K O Z A K]

result: rock, paper and scissors all get nerfed

[Captain Caveman DE]

in fact,anything that runs faster than a stock urbie should be nerfed, right..?

[tutzdes]

Racerxintegra2k, on 14 February 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

The flea should not even be mentioned as being close to the PIR league.

A lot of good light mech pilots actually like Flea more.

I value agility higher than pure alpha capability, so for me MASC Fleas are just way better.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Curccu, on 14 February 2019 - 09:35 AM, said:

And there you are so wrong, ECM/Stealth Flea is annoying... Flea-17 SPL fit is murder in capable hands, more so than piranha IMO.

would that same pilot not do better in a PIR ... way more firepower.

[tutzdes]

Racerxintegra2k, on 14 February 2019 - 01:08 PM, said:

would that same pilot not do better in a PIR ... way more firepower.

Depends on the enemy. Flea has a lot more chances to survive longer. If all enemies are potatoes, yeah, sure firepower is the only thing you need. If they can aim and are able to react to your presence, Flea sometimes feels like a direct upgrade.

Also it is not actually "way more firepower" but rather way better alpha. Sustained bites even the field in this regard somewhat, so "way more" turns into just a bit more.

[Curccu]

Racerxintegra2k, on 14 February 2019 - 01:08 PM, said:

would that same pilot not do better in a PIR ... way more firepower.

Bigger alpha in Pir2/3 and bigger sustained DPS for Pir1, not same kind of agility and focused fire as flea.
If a good pilot would duel himself with flea and piranha, flea would win.

[Darian DelFord]

Racerxintegra2k, on 14 February 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

The flea should not even be mentioned as being close to the PIR league. 90% of the time i see a flea its because its stealth and the last of its teammates to die. It then runs around the map annoying everyone but not actually do anything.

I beg to differ on that statement

[Prototelis]

Fle struggles on laser pirs, you're better off not engaging unless you get the drop on it.

Fle absolutely busts the **** out of pir-1.

Plz lets not tell the mechdads the fle is good, it'll get nerfed.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Curccu, on 14 February 2019 - 01:28 PM, said:

Bigger alpha in Pir2/3 and bigger sustained DPS for Pir1, not same kind of agility and focused fire as flea.
If a good pilot would duel himself with flea and piranha, flea would win.

I'm not trying to be arrogant, but honestly could a really good flea pilot 1vs1 me(avg pilot) in a pir ... i would really like to see a flea beat a piranha. I really don't see how that's possible.

[Prototelis]

Racerxintegra2k, on 15 February 2019 - 07:38 AM, said:

I'm not trying to be arrogant, but honestly could a really good flea pilot 1vs1 me(avg pilot) in a pir ... i would really like to see a flea beat a piranha. I really don't see how that's possible.

Durability quirks, more agile, literally equiped with a "juke"box, and short duration lasers.

A 28 alpha every 2.5 seconds with about half second duration is some mean mean **** in a light fight.

[Darian DelFord]

Racerxintegra2k, on 15 February 2019 - 07:38 AM, said:

I'm not trying to be arrogant, but honestly could a really good flea pilot 1vs1 me(avg pilot) in a pir ... i would really like to see a flea beat a piranha. I really don't see how that's possible.

Honestly.....

Against a MG Pir.... Flea 17 wins all day.

Against a Cipher..... Advantage Flea

Against the 12 micro Piranha its 50/50 depending on who is the better aim and who gets the first shot off. However Proper MASC use tips it to the Flea side just a bit.

[DisasterTheory]

I suspect that the recent Macro bug is also affecting machine guns and that's why the PIR-1 seems to be able to murder a fully armored Assault in the back in under 3 seconds. Because when I use the mech with that loadout I get totally different results. I do not believe any light mech should be able to terrorize anything 60 tons or heavier period but PGI feels differently due to the mass population of players with "little mans syndrome".

[Antares102]

BLOODREDSINGLE, on 15 February 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

I suspect that the recent Macro bug ...

It has been fixed

[The Lost Boy]

I think the oxide was more broken in its prime. The cheetah got nerfed several times and they had to nerf the small pulse laser to finally put it to bed too. The pir dosnt even have ecm.