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[razenWing]

With 50 matches completed, I am looking to pick up my new champion. Honestly, it's down to 2 choices, PHX-2 which I don't have any variant of, or the Stormcrow, which rated at 11.5 million CBILL, is definitely the highest value mech on the list.

It's like drafting players. Do you draft for need? Or do you draft for values? Unless a lineman is transcendent, you generally don't draft a lineman in first round, even if you have a porous line.

But then, if I draft that Stormcrow, it's like, if I already have a Tom Brady, why do I need another elite quarterback? And it hits me, at this point of the game, there are no more exciting builds I can possibly try on the stormcrow. It's like, my first string quarter back is Tom Brady, my second string is Cam Newton, so I have both a pocket and a running quarterbacks. There is nothing else exciting to do with any possible combination of quarterbacks.

ok... now THAT was a long setup. But trust me, none of it is worth it.

Get to the main point... Clan doesn't have a niche of 55 tonners that's a stealth hitter. They have a runner that's the BL. That's have a first line in Stormcrow. Hunchbacks kind of fill the role of a second line coming in at 50 tons. But they don't have a stealth option that can pack a heat.

A flanker as you say.

But there is one historically, in MW4's Hellhound. It's a ECM mech, runs fast, decent armor, 2 omni slots at the torso. I use to run 4 ERLL or 2 LBX10s. All the mounts are highmount, something that doesn't yet exist for the Clans right now. It's simultaneously the combination of IS Griffin and Shadowhawk.

It's one that can fill out the Clan arsenal.

Oh, and as an added bonus, it looks incredibly cool.

So how about it? MW4 Hellhound for next mech release? I want to MAKE IT RAIN!!!!!

Edited by razenWing, 07 July 2018 - 03:47 PM.

[Xeno Phalcon]

You want a mini blood asp with easy to pop shoulders in the vein of the soon to be nerfed clan mechs? Sounds legit. Id have preferred the battletech version - which was just a renamed Wolverine IIC - but i stoped playing the clans 'before' the great nerf bat came a calling so no big deal for me either way <.<

[razenWing]

Xeno Phalcon, on 07 July 2018 - 03:54 PM, said:

You want a mini blood asp with easy to pop shoulders in the vein of the soon to be nerfed clan mechs? Sounds legit. Id have preferred the battletech version - which was just a renamed Wolverine IIC - but i stoped playing the clans 'before' the great nerf bat came a calling so no big deal for me either way <.<

You know there are more than 1 type of weapon for Clan mechs right?

[FupDup]

If you're looking for a 55-ton Clan ECM Omni, the Hellhound isn't for that role because it's only 50 tons (in both canon and MW4).

Anyways, a while ago I decided to try to envision what its variants would look like in MWO and came up with this:



It's renamed to the Warhound because then it doesn't run into the problem of contradicting the canon Hellhound.

[razenWing]

FupDup, on 07 July 2018 - 04:21 PM, said:

If you're looking for a 55-ton Clan ECM Omni, the Hellhound isn't for that role because it's only 50 tons (in both canon and MW4).

Anyways, a while ago I decided to try to envision what its variants would look like in MWO and came up with this:



It's renamed to the Warhound because then it doesn't run into the problem of contradicting the canon Hellhound.

FupDup for president. I am for this. 2 thumbs up approval.

[Kiiyor]

FupDup, on 07 July 2018 - 04:21 PM, said:

If you're looking for a 55-ton Clan ECM Omni, the Hellhound isn't for that role because it's only 50 tons (in both canon and MW4).

Anyways, a while ago I decided to try to envision what its variants would look like in MWO and came up with this:



It's renamed to the Warhound because then it doesn't run into the problem of contradicting the canon Hellhound.

I like this. 8 MGs, 3 energy, or 8 MGs, 2 energy and ECM. Deadly little medium. Sign me up.

[Korz]

I would like to see a torso ams on this then you can have ams and ecm with the current lrm spam it is useful. Other wise...I like it.

[Hellhound 078]

I would also like to see both the BT and MW4 versions of the Hellhound in MWO because.... reasons.

[Alex Morgaine]

I built my huntsman like a psurdo-hellhound-mw4 and while trading 16kph for jumpjets it's not too bad as a skirmisher. Vote from me for it :3

[Xeno Phalcon]

razenWing, on 07 July 2018 - 04:07 PM, said:

You know there are more than 1 type of weapon for Clan mechs right?

Lies they are all Clan ER C-bills.

Come layeth thine eyes on my vast hanger of clan equipment, and you shalt find it to be barren.

[Andi Nagasia]

for those of you who dont know what the Hellhound(Conjurer) is,

here is a Picture of the Hellhound(Conjurer) from MW4,

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 08 July 2018 - 06:15 PM.

[razenWing]

Andi Nagasia, on 08 July 2018 - 06:14 PM, said:

for those of you who dont know what the Hellhound(Conjurer) is,

here is a Picture of the Hellhound(Conjurer) from MW4,

Is that from official data? As far as I know, MW4 Hellhound is actually a separate entity from the Conjurer, which is a BT Lore mech.

[The Lighthouse]

razenWing, on 08 July 2018 - 08:19 PM, said:

Is that from official data? As far as I know, MW4 Hellhound is actually a separate entity from the Conjurer, which is a BT Lore mech.

No, they are not separate entity. Read the descriptions, it said "Conjurer (Hellhound to the Inner Sphere)" right there. The Armament (LPL, 2 X ERML and 2 X SSRM2) exactly matches as well.


*Looks at original BT Conjurer.


MW4 design is so much better than this yet another extremely generic super boring humanoid mech.

Edited by The Lighthouse, 08 July 2018 - 09:15 PM.

[Josh Seles]

In MW4 Mercs, the Hellhound was quite good and I liked it. But, it would have its pros and cons in MWO.
The arm mounts are cockpit level and the torso mounts are above cockpit. Thus, it would likely be quite good at hill peeking.
I'm also pretty sure it's supposed to be a standard Battlemech, not an Omni. Swappable armor, structure and engine but not hardpoints. But I could be wrong there.

However, it's hitboxes look rather obvious and large, kind of like the IS Hunchback, except for both side torsos instead of only 1. Its arms also look small, which means they wouldn't shield the side torsos very well.
It's legs look wide from a side view, making it's legs easy to destroy too.
I also wouldn't count on PGI giving it quirks of any kind either because it'd be a Clan Battlemech with ECM, jump jets, and entirely cockpit-level weapons, which even gives PGI an excuse to skimp on agility. Plus, PGI has said they want to cut back on quirks.

Last, my take on the art situation: drop the old art entirely. The newer MW4 edition is absolutely superior.

[FupDup]

Josh Seles, on 08 July 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

I'm also pretty sure it's supposed to be a standard Battlemech, not an Omni. Swappable armor, structure and engine but not hardpoints. But I could be wrong there.

In MW4 it had Omni hardpoints on each arm, but MekTek's unofficial mod later changed that.

Plus, if it was a Battlemech that would make more overlap with the Hunchie IIC (both are high-torso mount 50-tonners).

Edited by FupDup, 09 July 2018 - 03:03 AM.