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[Jyrox]

I had wanted it.

I had smurfy labbed it.

I had given up on it.

Damage has to come from the arms...

The arms...

They are the first things to go...

Why would anyone want such a vulnerable mech!

5 Hero mechs for money they said...

I paid that money...

I bought a Phoniex Hawk.

826 damge...

826...

See for yourself

I prove the spec and the no skills at the end.

[SFC174]

Haven't really had an issue with arms falling off on the PXH. Most (all?) of the variants have some pretty huge armor quirks, and the thing has plenty of side torso to aim at too.

I play the 6 MPL/ECM variant (only one I bought) and it works great as a quick flanker, light hunter and support mech.

[Bud Crue]

The PHX surprised you on that match because you got lucky as hell with a sequence of enemies doing stupid crap like a kit fox managing to shut itself down, and all the rest. The PHX is not OP, it is not good, it is barley niche. It is an oversized light and in a median game you would have died pretty quickly or done minimal damage with that build.

I'm sorry. I'm a lorehole at heart and would like to believe what Chris is shoveling (e.g that all mechs and builds can be viable to any other mech or build based on nothing more than player choice),but that isn't reality. Some mechs are good and some mechs are bad, and but for an amazing set of circumstances, 4 SPL and a couple HMG on an oversized 45 ton mech, is bad.

You got lucky. Or maybe you are an amazeballs player, but the PHX, and that build was NOT what made that a good match for you.

[Shanrak]

Exactly, even with 4 MLs that MDD should've been able to kill you easily. Those were some of the worst pilots I've seen. 4 small lasers 2HMG and still only 97kph? That's pretty terrible.

[Athom83]

Fix Your Weapon Groups!

[Jyrox]

As usual so much love on this forum.

That Steam, the cess-pool it is is nicer...well.

A lot of you have to get out of your own bottom-holes.

[Viking Yelling]

The phoenix hawk is one of those mechs that takes a lot of skill and input.

[Snowbluff]

I call them pixies because that's what I see when I see "PX"

Also, I think your build is undergunned. You're barely generating heat, which tells me you aren't meeting your damage potential. Try 4x ML or x4 MPL with 2 MG (1/2 ton of ammo)
KUROI KIRI

EDIT: 3 tons of AMS ammo is probably excessive. Maybe 2 AMS and 2 tons of ammo at most.

Edited by Snowbluff, 18 September 2018 - 04:11 PM.

[Athom83]

Jyrox, on 18 September 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

As usual so much love on this forum.

That Steam, the cess-pool it is is nicer...well.

A lot of you have to get out of your own bottom-holes.

It was an okay match. Personally I like the Roc much better with Pulse Lasers and SRMs.

[Shanrak]

Jyrox, on 18 September 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

As usual so much love on this forum.

That Steam, the cess-pool it is is nicer...well.

A lot of you have to get out of your own bottom-holes.

Sorry if you got so offended for the truth. I haven't been around long enough to be anti MWO/PGI like you seems to assume. I still like this game but sometimes truth just has to be said.

The 6MPL+ECM build that someone else posted is viable but the rest of the chassis is pretty lame.

Also adding some additional build feedback. If you are going to carry 2AMS with 6k rounds you should stay with your team to support them. If you want to go hunting and backstabbing you are better off dropping them for more weapons.

Edited by Shanrak, 18 September 2018 - 04:13 PM.

[Jyrox]

Shanrak, on 18 September 2018 - 04:09 PM, said:

Sorry if you got so offended for the truth. I haven't been around long enough to be anti MWO/PGI like you seems to assume. I still like this game but sometimes truth just has to be said.

The 6MPL+ECM build that someone else posted is viable but the rest of the chassis is pretty lame.

Stop believing your words are truth.

Start being less angry

Start not caring and laughing at life and have fun.

I'm not your enemy.

I won't even remember you tomorrow, and you won't remember me either.

Why on earth did you propostion as if your words are steel, and to not be heeded would harken apocalypse?

Edited by Jyrox, 18 September 2018 - 04:13 PM.

[Shanrak]

LMAO I'm not angry you are the one reacting in anger at someone else's words. I don't care what you think but I do care that someone else might think the PHX is OP when it is not.

[Jyrox]

Shanrak, on 18 September 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

LMAO I'm not angry you are the one reacting in anger at someone else's words. I don't care what you think but I do care that someone else might think the PHX is OP when it is not.

I'm not angry, I have autism and sensory processing disorder.

I can assure you that I have no anger here, you're arguing with someone who has no social skills, and has not showed off.

Wanna do deep chat about stuff, I love knowlege...over to you.

Here is a video of neurons in the brain,...

This is what, when it goes wrong, causes autism,

Edited by Jyrox, 18 September 2018 - 04:29 PM.

[Viking Yelling]

Shanrak, on 18 September 2018 - 04:16 PM, said:

LMAO I'm not angry you are the one reacting in anger at someone else's words. I don't care what you think but I do care that someone else might think the PHX is OP when it is not.

But the Phoenix Hawk is OP.

Edited by Viking Yelling, 18 September 2018 - 04:36 PM.

[Jyrox]

Really, I'm not angy, I'm not good with people, and maybe I've had a few posts and a few personal notices from moderators about my conduct, but I assure, I have no malice...





And though I go by the name Jyrox, I write like this,

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[thievingmagpi]

6mpl, ECM. Nice.

8spl, JJs. Nice.

[FLG 01]

I have stopped trying to convince people that the Phoenix Hawk is much better than its reputation suggests. At least they underestimate me and my Mech.

[Viking Yelling]

thievingmagpi, on 19 September 2018 - 07:43 AM, said:

6mpl, ECM. Nice.

8spl, JJs. Nice.

On that hero varient he's using, 4 MPL, 3 JJ, 2 ams w/ 2 tons ammo, and a pair of MGs all fit with an XL 300/Light 250.
Without AMS/MGs, should be able to use close to a light 280. Kinda depends on what fits you and your play style with the phoenix hawk.

It's never been a "meta" mech, but it can do a lot, and really juat a lot more dynamic than a lot of mechs.

Edited by Viking Yelling, 19 September 2018 - 08:15 AM.

[thievingmagpi]

yup, movement is armour.

speed, agility, jjs, ability to disappear. that's worth as much or more than an equivalent amount of physical defence. certainly no one would argue that it's OP or even high tier but it's fun to take out now and again and produce a little. what else is the point? I run blackjacks sometimes and they're **bad** but it's fun to do sometimes. Luckily, the PH can actually produce a bit. I think I've carried a match or two in one.

[ShiverMeRivets]

KuruKiri is the worst Pheonix Hawk. For every build, one of the other PXHs can do it better. KK is basically PXH-1 with one extra energy hard point, and worse quirks.

As some other pointed out, 3 small lasers and 2HMG is a really REALLY light loadout, especially if you are doing under 100kph unskilled. I consider 280 as the minimum engine rating for PXHs, unless you are trying some crazy loadout - this should already put you over 100 kph.

For KK and the -1 I would ditch the MG and go for a moderately big ballistic LB10/AC10/UAC5 and lasers. These are in my opinion the least favorite PXHs and the two I do not own, nor intend to. I love my PXH-2 and -3S, so much fun and you get underestimated a lot