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[Phoenix 72]

I managed a good number of games today, so far. 13 matches, which is more than I often manage. Thought I would take my day off to try and skill some Mechs. And I am beginning to really lose my motivation to play this game.

I am one and 12. Yup. One win, twelve losses.

I played Phoenix Hawk, Crab and MadCat.

According to my profile, I averaged 281 match score in this season so far, with 6 wins and 13 losses all in all. Statistically speaking I should have accidently won a few games by now, even without participating at all.

Can we please get a new matchmaker? The current one is beginning to annoy the hell out of me.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

Just remember, the only constant is you.
That said, you've only played a couple of games, streaks in on or the other directions are fairly normal.

[Phoenix 72]

Well, I got another 4 and 4 later. There is only so much you can carry in a Crab. And I am beginning to find out that I do not have the knack for playing Assault. I still want to finish skilling the MadCat, eventually.

My average MS has gone down to 264 by now, but I for one would guess I am not the biggest problem causing the defeats.

[Tesunie]

Darakor Stormwind, on 02 October 2018 - 11:26 PM, said:

6 wins and 13 losses

Those numbers are really small. Too small of a grouping to determine any real averages from it. Still, considering that's 19 matches, there is only so much one person can do.

For example, if you have a match like I did last night, where two people on your team fail to connect, there is only so much you can do when it's turned into a 10 vs 12 out of your favor. Or if your group drops against a group from EMP... There is only so much a single player can do. You are one out of 24 other people in the match, so you only have about a 4% influence on your match (given the numbers), 8% influence on your team, especially if you are solo dropping things.

Of course, above numbers can be adjusted if communication happens, etc.

Darakor Stormwind, on 03 October 2018 - 06:08 AM, said:

My average MS has gone down to 264 by now, but I for one would guess I am not the biggest problem causing the defeats.

Considering average match scores of 200-250 is considered average, you are above average in that category.


Not overly sure what you are expecting here for your stats. It seems you are doing just fine to me.

[Ruccus]

While winning is nice, for me I tend to not focus on the win or loss as being the be-all and end-all of the match.

If I die during a match I'll quickly look at my damage and other stats that pop up on a death to decide whether I personally did well during the match, get into spectate mode to see if my initial thoughts of why I died (my group nascarred away from me, I overstretched, an enemy lance made a good flanking maneuver, etc.) can be confirmed, and watch the rest of the match and try to help inform the remaining team for things like dangerous builds (Dual HGR Fafnir/Annie/Sleipnir; Laser Vomit Hellbringer, etc.) open components (Fafnir open CT, etc.), ECM mech locations, and whether any objectives need to be noticed (mainly conquest numbers if they're getting out of hand).

After the match is over or when the result seems set in stone, then I'll start to think about what happened during the match and whether any of my mech build decisions helped or hindered me during the match. Was my build cool enough to the point of being a bit too cool, and I couldn't quite finish off a mech or two? If so I might drop a heatsink and add a targeting computer, more ammo, more armour, or a bigger weapon. Did I have too much trouble getting into weapons range and not enough staying power? Then I might either move to a longer range weapon and/or switch some weight around to add a bigger, faster engine. Am I sure the build is okay but my tactics using the build didn't work? Then I'd tweak my play style to better use my build.

If I'm satisfied with my performance during the match then I'm fine; there are some games that I played well and several other of my teammates played well (either by looking at the final screen, seeing them trade well, or watch them do the right tactics during the match) and we still lost because the other team just had more players that also did well. Those matches you've got to recognize as wins even on a loss because when everybody brings their A-game I find it's a whole lot of fun even if half the players have to wrack up a loss.

[Prototelis]

https://leaderboard....rakor+Stormwind

You have consistently improved your performance. I wouldn't worry about it, you've made it to the most frustrating part of your career. The intermediate level.

That is why it is so frustrating; you can see the bad things that are about to happen, can recognise a bad build with a casual glance, know a fair bit about positioning, and have decent gunnery skills. The peeps you're being matched with on average flat out don't belong in the same games as you do because they lack those skills and most of them have no intention of improving.

Keep doing you and you'll keep getting better at the game.

[Bivoca]

Darakor Stormwind, on 03 October 2018 - 06:08 AM, said:

Well, I got another 4 and 4 later. There is only so much you can carry in a Crab. And I am beginning to find out that I do not have the knack for playing Assault. I still want to finish skilling the MadCat, eventually.

My average MS has gone down to 264 by now, but I for one would guess I am not the biggest problem causing the defeats.

If I may ask, what is MS?

[tutzdes]

Bivoca, on 03 October 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

If I may ask, what is MS?

Last time I used it it stood for the Match Score.

[MechaBattler]

I try not to focus on win/loss. Since you really can't control who you get matched up with or against. Focus more on how well I do in a match. Whether I can walk away proud even on a loss. Helps to have premium time and hero mech to take the sting out of the c-bills on a lost match.

If you wanna focus on winning the match. Find a group to play with.

[Prototelis]

WLR is one of the key statistics for determining your level of play.

Good players naturally have higher WLR because they have a greater effect on the outcome of a match.

Comparing a players AvMS, WLR, KDR, and what classes they usually play says a lot about their personal skill level/skill progression.

For example; This season so far has been an extreme outlier for me, and the only difference is I've been playing nothing but skilled out meta assaults. Finally breaking that 300 AvMS barrier I set for myself, hope I can keep it up!

[Phoenix 72]

Well, normally, I tend to take my satisfaction of having a good match. Unless I have a specific objective. Then I like to work on that objective. I have found that when I have a decent number of new Mechs that I need to skill, with my limited playtime, it works best for me to turn on premium time and get one victory per Mech that I want to skill (for the double exp bonus).

Normally, when I produce a match score of over 250, I am fine with my performance.

[Herz aus Stahl]

40% of all matches you'll lose, no matter what you do, 40% of all Matches you'll win, no matter what you do.

But the last 20% are in you Influence, you vs. a last standing Mech, you and a teammate vs. 3 enemies, the right flanking maneuver in the right time, distracting your opponents and your teammates realizing it is time for a push, you distracting the enemy and harassing the opponent team, using your firepower to kill the most important player of the opposite team and so on.

Focus on these 20% matches where you actually have influence and make the difference!
Then your WR will be 50-60% and don't think too much about you WR when you have a losing streak, you don't think about a winning streak neither ;-)

Edited by Herz aus Stahl, 04 October 2018 - 10:05 PM.

[Davegt27]

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Can we please get a new matchmaker? The current one is beginning to annoy the hell out of me.

OP I know what you mean

[Damnedtroll]

Win loss if dropping solo is hard to compute... Got some winning streak and also some crippling lost streak pushing me to stop playing for a while because i'm pissed off. Finding a good team to train but also working in coordination make all the difference in this game. Dropping solo it's a toss of a coin and sometimes in doesn't fall on your side.

[Tesunie]

On the note of W/L, this game is PvP. Not everyone can win all of their matches...

[Dragonporn]

Assaults are absolutely the hardest mech class to play, because they rely on team support the most of all. If you do not run meta cheese Assaults like Annihilator or Mad Cat, and you're in the team that has no idea about escort, constantly nascar and never support Assault push, hoping to win is worthless. Just stick to something more mobile. It may not improve you w/l, but you won't feel so pissed every time you get no support at all and getting boxed.

[The Basilisk]

Darakor Stormwind, on 02 October 2018 - 11:26 PM, said:

I managed a good number of games today, so far. 13 matches, which is more than I often manage. Thought I would take my day off to try and skill some Mechs. And I am beginning to really lose my motivation to play this game.

I am one and 12. Yup. One win, twelve losses.

I played Phoenix Hawk, Crab and MadCat.

According to my profile, I averaged 281 match score in this season so far, with 6 wins and 13 losses all in all. Statistically speaking I should have accidently won a few games by now, even without participating at all.

Can we please get a new matchmaker? The current one is beginning to annoy the hell out of me.

Phawk is good for doing some fun matches to fool around, otherwise its a lost 50 or 55t mech for your team.
The crab was a good mech and has become tedium medium since it came out.
The MadCat was a very dangerous mech and everybody knows about it...its out for a while now and REALY everybody knows it so....shoot it first.

In later posts you say you get matchscores around 260ish...that is like your mechs...for you okish and if done in a Phawk pretty good, still ok in a crab and borderline ok in a MadCat.
Well there you have it.

That beein said its also a thing of daytime and overall luck. Got games in the past where I did not win for days playing a hundred games because I was fumbling with new mechs.
Due to the low player pop ppl tend to recognize you and go for the easy kill when they've learned your weaknes.

So my advise:

- Try to wait and get other match compositions or play an other daytime.

- Try other mechs that work better for you to get you some satisfaction, this also helps to get a grasp of the differences that make the mechs weak that you are leveling.

- When you get frustrated stop playing. Remember the mightyest button in video games is the off button, there is no better way to deny runaround sealclubbing cheesebuild pilots their kills than just not playing with them.

[Phoenix 72]

I am playing the Shadow Hawk with 3 RAC2, I am consistenly in the top 3 people of my team damage wise with that. Although I agree the Bushwacker 1X will probably do that build muuuuch better. Still, I wanted to finish skilling it. I just realised I wrote Phoenix Hawk in the OP. It is actually a Shadow Hawk.

I am currently still skilling 2 Crabs, 27 and 27B. Damage isn't impressive for the most part (right now, anyway), but I like how tanky they are. And the more heat the enemy spends taking me down, the less they can do to the rest of my team. So a Crab will carry it's weight quite well normally.

The MadCat is my own fault, though. I keep trying out Assaults and keep finding out I do not do overly well with them.

What can I say, I do not feel like constantly playing the same Mechs, I do want to grab some new ones while I am at it. You can never have too many Mechs.

[General Solo]

Maybe switch to longer range builds so you can do damage more often so more carry power and less team reliant.

Thou some days all you can do to flip the overide and spam the fire button and hope for the best

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 08 October 2018 - 11:37 PM.

[Loodacris]

Feeling like the MM is rigged...only started playing and i'm noticing the same teams over and over again. Get creamed? MM says try again with the same team composition and get steam rolled again by the same opfor.

Seriously can't even pull a 50/50 in any of my mechs and I don't even do that bad in damage most games.