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[LowSubmarino]

Playing without an assault is kinda bad. Loosing one assault right at start puts you at a bad disadvantage if all other variables are balanced, which, of course, isnt the case often times, at least giving the appearance that playing with one less assault isnt that bad.

It is bad though. Anyobody who has played this game a bit and isnt a completly inexperienced player knows, that being down one kodiak or fafnir or cyclops or madcat isnt that great.

4 Times in the last 3 or so hours I just crashed and I purposefully didnt even try to reconnect because lets be honest, two times it was mining and one time canyon and the last I cant remember. But it was a small map. In a fafnir/assault you have no chance to be alive after reconnecting after 1 minute or so.

Youre long dead.

Isnt it annoying for you, when one of your assaults is just out of the game right at start?

Cause I see that all the time and it happened to me too 4 times in the last couple hours. Game just randomly crashes.

If it doesnt crash for me theres always at least one or two player that will randomly disco and we or team red fights with one less mech. If its an assault thats particularly painful.

Is there any knews concering a patch to fix the constant crashing in every match? So that we dont always fight 11 vs 12, 3 assaults on one side vs 4 assaults on the other side.

Thats 100 ton less you have if its one of the big mechs.Thats complelty unfair, all that armor and firepower that youre missing.

Am I the only one whos uber annoyed with mwos constant and relentless crashing ever since closed beta?

Why do I not see more threads that talk about that specific aspect.

Cause I now believe thats why pgi never even talked about that, never ssaid theyre working on it or that they intend to finally patch that. Or do something. Anything.

I mean jesus Christ this game has been around for how long.

And still its so unstable.

But you guys and girls never say anything.

Im not sure if we all play the same game, cause whenver I (the only person in the entire commuhnity) that keeps pointing out that theres discos in every single match almost every match pll say they never crash and dont see discos all the time.

I dont understand this. Im talking about mwo QP matches. Are you ppl trying to like mock me or to anger me by saying that cause who ever plays mwo will see right away that what I say is actually true. There is crashes in 9 out of 10 games. Almost every single match.

To me this is uberannoying. I hat lag or unstable experiences or consantly playing with one less mech.

If you would all just say this is super annyoing and theres a big thread and thousands of ppl will say this sux then a dev has to respond, Meaning, they would have to address that issue cause if thousands of players complain about that they risk loosing too many customers.

But as always when ppl are involved, they just ignore it and dont really care so theres never any change.

To me that will be a mystery.

What kind of gamers are you. Seriously. What kind of gamers are you.

The first thing I do is check and observe if a game runs smooth.

A real gamer would be totally annoyed if a game with fun gameplay is so unstable.

So what is it with this community. You dont really care? or youre so blind that you dont see that ppl crash all the time or what is it.

How does that not annoy you?

That is, very respectfully, beyond me. Ill never understand.

You all could fix this game, by actually stating what annoys you and by addressing that.

Ive played a number of onlin games. This istn nromal. Damn...the games I have played (quite a few) basically never crash. This game crashes all the time. Doesnt that annoy you?

[Marquis De Lafayette]

I don’t know what else to say but to state the obvious: 24 players playing on 24 different rigs (some of which are not in top shape for playing MWO) with 24 different WiFi and internet connections (of various qualities) is always going to mean discos will happen more regularly than we would like. I am normally solid with my internet, but it went out 2x in different matches last night.....wasn’t Pgi’s fault in the slightest....I couldn’t connect to anything.
I am glad to put pgi’s feet to the fire for the mistakes they actually make (I have been in matches where their servers kicked nearly everyone), but discos also happen for all kind of non-PGI reasons. So, you can’t put it all on them. Man, look what you made me do, defend PGI...geez...can’t we get back to talking about their obvious actual mistakes?

[Tatula]

Crashes happen pretty much to all of us. Not attempting to reconnect, though, is just you being salty about it. You should reconnect to at least try to help out if your mech is still alive. If your mech is destroyed, you can spectate and try to call target. Maybe give advice to the ones who seem to be newer or inexperienced players.

I don't like crashing any more than anybody else, and I'm sure PGI is aware of it and has made attempts to try to fix it. Unfortunately, they haven't been very successful. Maybe there are just too many variables, such as what other software is also running while the game is running, or a certain version of a hardware driver, or whatever. Sh*t happens. Deal with it and help your team out.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Crashes used to annoy me.

I swapped to Windowed mode.

No more crashes.

[Dragonporn]

I didn't have a single crash in very long time now (about ~6 months or so at least). I don't say it doesn't happen to anyone. It's PC we're talking about, specific combination of hardware/software has a tendency to cause crashes in many different games, but in this particular case, we don't know if PGI can fix it on their side, and maybe it is possible for you, to fix it on your end?

Btw, just out of curiousity, what Windows version and hardware you run?

On disconnects, it happens for me sometimes, but I do not crash, and most of them happen because my provider isn't very good...

[SFC174]

Can't really defend PGI on this one. Lots of other games have the same sort of fundamental challenge - working for 20-30 different players/rigs on 20-30 different connections. But even on crappy flash based MMOs I have never seen the level of disconnects that MWO experiences. It does seem to average about 1 per match anecdotally. That's a 4%+ disco/afk rate - way too high.

Yes, people need to update their drivers (or windows even). Yes, some rigs are below par. But somehow other game makers seem to design their software in a way that results in a much lower rate of discos/afks. Whether its the cryengine foundation, or lazy design on PGI's part, they really don't have a very robust platform IMO.

[Unnatural Growth]

Too many variables.

I'm playing on a far-below-min-spec machine, running Windows 7, and my frame rate sux, but I almost never crash.

[Xeno Phalcon]

I will say this, out of all the issues MWO has for me crashing hasnt been one of them in a very long time.

[Pilotasso]

better loose assaults than lights. Your worries have been misplaced.

[Prototelis]

Another thread where you cry about crashes or disconnects and refuse to address the problem on your end, only now you don't even attempt to reconnect. Cute.

I can assure you I play on a much worse computer/connection than most of the game population and I don't experience issues near like you claim to.

[Nightbird]

don't play in fullscreen mode, change it to full windowed mode, and no more crashes in game

[Sorbic]

I probably crash one in 4 or so games. Out of those I come back to a dead or effectively dead mech about 1 in 4 or 5 games so while the crashing happens an unacceptable amount I am only doomed with no or very little damage less than 1 in 10 games. (screw DC hunters)

There are a good number more where I am chasing my team while getting picked apart but at least I get to do some dmg in these scenarios. PGI does need to work on this. This problem has persisted through 2 windows installs and a different CPU/mobo combo.

[GeminiWolf]

I never crash, so its not the client or the game. The only time I have disconnected was when my router stopped or my internet connection was interrupted.

PS: Im hella PO'd at PGI right now so Im not defending them. Until they get rid of this bias Moderator I refuse to spend my money on this game. Just so you know I'm not White Knighting this subject.

Edited by GeminiWolf, 01 November 2018 - 10:16 PM.

[Phoenix 72]

I dunno. I have been playing since January or something this year, my computer is about 4 years old, I play in fullscreen mode and I have crashed exactly once, about 6 weeks back. Reconnected as quickly as possible, but ended up in a different game for some reason.

I keep seeing people DC all the time, though, and it is usually the same person. I have been in matches where the same Assault ended up on my team 3 times in a row, DCed every single time, then ended up on the red team and played a really good match. I just assumed PGI was trolling me.

But from chatting with friends that also play, every time they had problems, it was on their end. Not saying it is on your end, but what have you done to find out whether it is? Whenever something goes wrong, the first thing I do is see what I can do to improve the situation on my end. And when I run out of things to try, that's where I contact my ISP, etc.

Why don't you try out some of the suggestions that worked for other people and see whether that improves your situation?

[LowSubmarino]

Sorbic, on 01 November 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

I probably crash one in 4 or so games. Out of those I come back to a dead or effectively dead mech about 1 in 4 or 5 games so while the crashing happens an unacceptable amount I am only doomed with no or very little damage less than 1 in 10 games. (screw DC hunters)

There are a good number more where I am chasing my team while getting picked apart but at least I get to do some dmg in these scenarios. PGI does need to work on this. This problem has persisted through 2 windows installs and a different CPU/mobo combo.

Same. I crash every 1 - 10 machtes. Yesterday about 5 times I think that was the highest number in single day. Just like you I had multiple rigs, my systems all ran stable, never any issues with literally any other game. Any other game.

No i wont reconnect for 2 reasons. First of all, trying to catch up in an assault, specially in an assault, is just so bad, when youre like 2 minutes late. Thats jsut so bad, youll prolly get picked apart on your way to team if you ever reach it with 50 kph and most of the time i was just reconnecting to my dead mech. And its humililiating that you get such an instable program and then you get even penalized for not wanting to waste your time by reconnecting to your dead mech.

Thats just a slap in the face so no, I wont do that. If I crash my mech is out of the game. Until the game is finally fixed.

But that will never be fixed.

Sadly though I couldnt say anything nice in no forum about mwo and I never recommended anybody online to check out mw5 when it releases. The reason is how unstalbe mwo always was and especially that the devs simply ignore all of that and in terms of offical moderation, or devs, somebody who actually takes a look at the ppl in their forum and communicates with them.....this is a deserted place. Nobody from pgi ever looks into the forum precisely for this reason.

Why keep escort in the rotation when literally nobody wants to play that or why not change the game mode which all ppl wanted but not in this way of protecting a dull, dumb, mindless übernoobish bot?

Silence, as pgi isnt even present here on any level.

Will there ever be an update concerning the constant crashes, will that ever be fixed?

Silence, as pgi isnt even present here in threir very own forum or at least I have never seen anybody here that speaks for pgi. Where are those ppl?

Are there even mods here that get payed I mean why is this forum here when you cant even talk to anybody official??

Dont you think thats really weird?

I talked to devs all the time in other forum. They respond. The devs. The devlepers of a game, come down from their holy throne and talked to me, a mere mortal.

In mwo forums??
haha. Oh lord.

They dont even care enough to be in their own forum. They literally dont give a single ****.

How you guys actually pay for such service (dwl) is beyond me. That realyl is so far beyond me, I will never understand.

You guys accept anything. Prolyl if your hotel room stinks and is completly dirty you accept that too I would assume at least.

[Kalleballe]

Go to twitch and watch someone play all night without a single crash or dc.
Paid when the game was fun, not anymore.

[Jman5]

LowSubmarino, on 01 November 2018 - 02:07 PM, said:

Why do I not see more threads that talk about that specific aspect.

Cause I now believe thats why pgi never even talked about that, never ssaid theyre working on it or that they intend to finally patch that. Or do something. Anything.

I mean jesus Christ this game has been around for how long.

And still its so unstable.

But you guys and girls never say anything.

Im not sure if we all play the same game, cause whenver I (the only person in the entire commuhnity) that keeps pointing out that theres discos in every single match almost every match pll say they never crash and dont see discos all the time.

I dont understand this. Im talking about mwo QP matches. Are you ppl trying to like mock me or to anger me by saying that cause who ever plays mwo will see right away that what I say is actually true. There is crashes in 9 out of 10 games. Almost every single match.

To me this is uberannoying. I hat lag or unstable experiences or consantly playing with one less mech.

If you would all just say this is super annyoing and theres a big thread and thousands of ppl will say this sux then a dev has to respond, Meaning, they would have to address that issue cause if thousands of players complain about that they risk loosing too many customers.

But as always when ppl are involved, they just ignore it and dont really care so theres never any change.

To me that will be a mystery.

What kind of gamers are you. Seriously. What kind of gamers are you.

The first thing I do is check and observe if a game runs smooth.

A real gamer would be totally annoyed if a game with fun gameplay is so unstable.

So what is it with this community. You dont really care? or youre so blind that you dont see that ppl crash all the time or what is it.

How does that not annoy you?

That is, very respectfully, beyond me. Ill never understand.

You all could fix this game, by actually stating what annoys you and by addressing that.

Ive played a number of onlin games. This istn nromal. Damn...the games I have played (quite a few) basically never crash. This game crashes all the time. Doesnt that annoy you?

You're not seeing a lot of people complaining because the vast majority of players don't have a crash problem. I'm sorry you're having a frustrating time, but my game isn't constantly crashing and I'm not having problems connecting to matches.

If you are having crashing/disconnect problem, I recommend the following:

1. Run the game's repair tool. Sometimes files get corrupted during a patch update. This can take a while to complete so run it when you've got time to spare.

2. Update your GPU's driver. If it's already up to date, then consider downgrading it because sometimes the latest driver is buggy.

3. Change your fullscreen options to one of the other options.

4. Restart your modem/router. My old router would sometimes start making my connection screwy without any noticeable impact on web browsing. However, it would make it difficult to connect to matches. A hard restart usually settled it.

5. Email support. If it's a long standing issue, just let support walk you through their solutions.

Edited by Jman5, 02 November 2018 - 05:51 AM.

[Jables McBarty]

Other main multiplayer game I played, Dota 2, which is continually developed and maintained by a developer with an excellent reputation (Valve), and is only 5v5, regularly crashed for me or other players. There's a lot of variables involved, and my attitude is that it's basically inevitable for online multiplayer games.

That being said, Dota 2 has a decent disco system - when you disconnect, AI directs your character to the base, and any of your teammates can take control of your character while you are disco'd, but cannot buy or sell items for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes, the game considers you to have abandoned the match, and you stop accumulating gold, and your allies usually sell your **** and distribute the gold amongst themselves.

Apparently discoed 'mechs take reduced damage; still it would be nice if after a certain point a dead ally could take over your 'mech so it isn't completely dead weight.

[LowSubmarino]

Jman5, on 02 November 2018 - 05:49 AM, said:

You're not seeing a lot of people complaining because the vast majority of players don't have a crash problem. I'm sorry you're having a frustrating time, but my game isn't constantly crashing and I'm not having problems connecting to matches.

If you are having crashing/disconnect problem, I recommend the following:

1. Run the game's repair tool. Sometimes files get corrupted during a patch update. This can take a while to complete so run it when you've got time to spare.

2. Update your GPU's driver. If it's already up to date, then consider downgrading it because sometimes the latest driver is buggy.

3. Change your fullscreen options to one of the other options.

4. Restart your modem/router. My old router would sometimes start making my connection screwy without any noticeable impact on web browsing. However, it would make it difficult to connect to matches. A hard restart usually settled it.

5. Email support. If it's a long standing issue, just let support walk you through their solutions.

Email support in mwo is completly useless on a level, that any report you send is waste of your time.

This is exactly what ppl here always say. What you say.

That the vast majority of players dont crash.

As someone stated, that simply isnt true at all.

Play mwo QP matches.

Not some other games QP matches. Im talking about mechwarrior onlien qp matches.

There you will surely see right away, that ppl crash all the time.

Just play it yourself, dont believe my words. Go there, play and see with your own eyes.

Edited by LowSubmarino, 02 November 2018 - 06:41 AM.

[Tarl Cabot]

Jables McBarty, on 02 November 2018 - 06:03 AM, said:

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Apparently discoed 'mechs take reduced damage; still it would be nice if after a certain point a dead ally could take over your 'mech so it isn't completely dead weight.

I am not sure about the reduced damage while D/C, it is likely that with a DC, the mech is not in the exact location server-side it is reflected on the client side.

Took 2 mechs to a private lobby and dc on one of them. The DC Battlemaster no damage was indicated on the paperdoll but on the mech itself it had the particle effect of being hit, when hitting the glass on the very top of the cockpit all the way to where it meets the rear. I was able to damage the cockpit but that area was somewhere on BM middle right torso area.

Or to put it another way. Have you seen the screenshots where parts of a mech were in different locations, some where the torso appears to be sliding off the legs? That is likely what occurs with a DC mech, all of its parts have become desync'd, and the HSR does not have enough info to do its calculations.

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And there are crashes, and there are DC which are not caused by crashes.

LowSubmarino, looking through your posts to see if you provided system info or sought any sort of assistance, you tend to have a very negative attitude about almost everything, negative Nancy. But on the tech side when assistance of one form or another is offered you simply ignore it or bash it.

./sad...

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 02 November 2018 - 07:21 AM.