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[TheArisen]

Would it be possible to get a new variant of an existing mech? I know they plan mech releases well in advance but maybe something like when the Griffin 2N was released by itself would be cool.

Some options I'd like.
- Grasshopper 7K, ecm & JJ, energy boat variant. Would help make the GHopper more relavant.
- Phoenix Hawk 4L, Ecm, JJ, mg boat
- Firestarter S1, Ecm, JJ, laser boat.
- PGI created ballistic Stalker or torso ballistic Battlemaster.

Would you guys like a new variant of an existing chassis? Which chassis would you like to see get a new variant?

Edited by TheArisen, 07 November 2018 - 07:35 PM.

[charliedelta76]

What I'd love to see is a bushwacker with ECM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

I'd start with the 'mechs with the least number of variants - all the following have less than 5 to choose from;
Commando
Spider
Jenner
Raven
Vindicator
Kintaro
Quickdraw
Jagermech
Archer
Marauder
King Crab

I'll pick out specific variants after I eat

[Shadowomega1]

A couple Dark Age Variants of the Timberwolf and the Mad Cat MK II come to mind. All of which use tech currently in the game.

Edited by Shadowomega1, 06 November 2018 - 10:30 AM.

[Bud Crue]

TheArisen, on 06 November 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

... Would help make the GHopper more relavant.

While new stuff is always nice, I for one would like my existing variants of an awful lot of chassis to be made more relevant be it with better quirks or whatever. I don’t see how introducing a new variant of any chassis helps the others be more relevant.

[LordNothing]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 November 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

I'd start with the 'mechs with the least number of variants - all the following have less than 5 to choose from;
Commando
Spider
Jenner
Raven
Vindicator
Kintaro
Quickdraw
Jagermech
Archer
Marauder
King Crab

I'll pick out specific variants after I eat

especially variants that bring old mechs up to the current level of power creep. 6 machine gun spider for example.

[MechaBattler]

Vindicator with stealth armor. Just cause...I unno, it'd be cool? I feel like that's a bad pun...

[Battlemaster56]

LordNothing, on 06 November 2018 - 10:46 AM, said:

especially variants that bring old mechs up to the current level of power creep. 6 machine gun spider for example.

Bump the Spider mg count to 8 and we have a deal.

Also

Would love to the see Dire Wolf C ECM, missile arms can make a really fine atm boat

[TheArisen]

Bud Crue, on 06 November 2018 - 10:43 AM, said:

While new stuff is always nice, I for one would like my existing variants of an awful lot of chassis to be made more relevant be it with better quirks or whatever. I don’t see how introducing a new variant of any chassis helps the others be more relevant.

Well that is more for Chris to handle.

A new variant can simply bring extra flavor and renew interest in a chassis.

[A Man In A Can]

LordNothing, on 06 November 2018 - 10:46 AM, said:

especially variants that bring old mechs up to the current level of power creep. 6 machine gun spider for example.

No need to create a whole new variant for those cases. Just increase the inflation on existing variants and call it a day. Laziest solution next to doing nothing. That's of course assuming PGI wants to do anything more than do nothing, which is unlikely.

[LordNothing]

ThatNumbGuy, on 06 November 2018 - 01:28 PM, said:

No need to create a whole new variant for those cases. Just increase the inflation on existing variants and call it a day. Laziest solution next to doing nothing. That's of course assuming PGI wants to do anything more than do nothing, which is unlikely.

well they could sell the new variants. kind of think they need more content in the < $10 range. they can come out for cbills in 4 months. some of my classic mechs i would pay money if i could make them viable again.

[Prototelis]

Locust 1L, gimme that triple strength myomer baby.

Edited by Prototelis, 06 November 2018 - 01:35 PM.

[DarthMoo]

I would love to see the : -
HBK-5SG A Norse-Storm prototype that never saw full production, the -5SG was first spotted in 3068 and trades out the autocannon and small laser of the -5S for a Gauss Rifle and Guardian ECM Suite. The addition of Stealth Armor makes this Hunchback a long-range sniper that is difficult to hit. A Compact Gyro is used to make room for all of the equipment.^[6] BV (2.0) = 1,577^{[14] http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hunchback}

[El Bandito]

Quad ballistic Stalker pls.

[TheArisen]

El Bandito, on 06 November 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

Quad ballistic Stalker pls.

Well it would have to be a PGI created variant but I'd buy it.

[CycKath]

A Justified Ancient of MU MU, on 06 November 2018 - 01:58 PM, said:

I would love to see the HBK-5SG

No Compact Gyro in MWO though.

That said I love this whole concept and wonder why PGI don't add more variants more often. No need to do new models. Is it because they want to save them for what we are going to get next week - Customer Appreciation?

[Karl Streiger]

El Bandito, on 06 November 2018 - 10:50 PM, said:

Quad ballistic Stalker pls.

Stalker 8S

Sure its a misery with the ballistic slot on the other side.

but Blazer Marauder or Zeus would be nice too.
And new versions for the Phoenix (RAC Thunderbolt, Gauss BattleMaster) and Alpha Mechs (Speed Hammer) would be nice too

Edited by Karl Streiger, 07 November 2018 - 01:43 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Jay Leon Hart, on 06 November 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

Commando
Spider
Jenner
Raven
Vindicator
Kintaro
Quickdraw
Jagermech
Archer
Marauder
King Crab

Commando

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COM-1C This version removed all the missile racks and replaced them with an Autocannon/2 with a ton of ammunition. It appears to have been an experiment in providing direct fire support. BV (2.0) = 458[10]

Spider

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SDR-7K The 7K is an upgrade of the base design, introduced by Nimakachi in 3067 and based on the success of other revitalized classic designs. It's built using an Endo Steel structure and five and a half tons of Ferro-Fibrous armor, a Light Fusion Engine in place of the standard model, and carries two Medium Pulse Lasers. Perhaps most critically, Nimakachi was able to finally install an ejection system in the 7K.[3] BV (1.0) = 688[8]

Jenner

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JR7-C3 An upgrade along the lines of the C2, the C3 stays true to the heart of the Jenner, making it easier to do as a field upgrade. The lasers are upgraded to ER Medium Lasers and the heat sinks are accordingly upgraded to double-strength versions. The missile launcher and its CASE are dropped for an eleventh heat sink, an additional ton and a half of armor, and a C3 Slave. BV (1.0) = ??, BV (2.0) = 1,069[7]

Raven

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RVN-SR This variant is a field upgrade made by Capellan March forces who captured many Ravens during Operation Sovereign Justice. This modification of the -3L replaces the lasers and TAG with four Machine Guns linked to a Machine Gun Array to protect it from the infantry assaults that resulted in the capture of the 'Mechs to begin with.[19] BV (1.0) = ??, BV (2.0) = 601[15]

Vindicator

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VND-4L The 4L Vindicator is a major upgrade to the design, part of Ceres Metal's efforts to revive the line in 3063. The engine has been replaced with a 225-rated extralight engine, granting the 'Mech a top speed of 86.4 km/h, and its jumping distance was increased to 150 meters with an additional jump jet. The 'Mech uses double heat sinks for its advanced weapons load, which includes an ER PPC and LRM-5 for striking power at long range and an ER medium laser and medium pulse laser for short range work. Finally, the 'Mech carries a Guardian ECM Suite and is protected with nine tons of Stealth Armor, making it harder to target at range. The 4L became a common design among Shadow Lances following their introduction. BV (1.0) = 1,177, BV (2.0) = 1,493[13]

Kintaro

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KTO-K An upgrade to the KTO-C, the KTO-K removed the Large Laser and LRM launcher to upgrade the short-range missiles to Streak SRM-6s. The lasers were upgraded to ER Medium Lasers and a third was added. The most significant difference was the addition of Jump jets to allow the unit to leap up to 150 meters. BV (2.0)= 1,571[18]

Quickdraw

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QKD-5Mr A field refit of the 5M introduced during the Jihad, this version uses ER Medium Lasers in the arms, adds a Guardian ECM Suite, a Targeting Computer, and an Artemis IV FCS. To make room for this new equipment, engineers removed a heat sink and the one-shot missile launcher.[12] BV (2.0) = 1,465[13]

Jagermech

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JM6-H The H variation is a late-era Periphery modification first seen in 3064 when the Marian Hegemony invaded the Illyrian Palatinate. The entire weapons loadout is replaced with two Large Lasers, two LB-X autocannon/2s with one ton of ammunition, and six Rocket Launcher 15s. Ten tons of ferro-fibrous armor are carried, and ten double heat sinks carry the heat burden of the heavy lasers. BV (1.0) = 1,203, BV (2.0) = 1,348[10]

Archer

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ARC-7L Built for the Capellan Confederation by Earthwerks in 3067, the 7L variant of the Archer incorporated new Stealth Armor and a Guardian ECM Suite for protection against enemy electronics in addition to making the Archer harder to target. The 'Mech carried twelve and a half tons of Stealth Armor and was armed with two LRM-20 launchers and two ER Medium Lasers. The trade-off for this massive upgrade was that the 'Mech's top speed was reduced to 54 km/h. In an attempt to compensate for this, the 'Mech also had three jump jets mounted, making it capable of jumping up to ninety meters at a time. The 7L was slated to enter the Capellan Confederation Armed Forces' new Shadow Lances.[11] BV (1.0) = 1,612[citation needed], BV (2.0) = 1,920[26]

Marauder

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MAD-7D Another Davion upgrade of the Marauder, the 7D was built in 3068 with an XL engine to save weight. The 'Mech was armed with two ER large lasers and two ER medium lasers, as well as a Rotary Autocannon/5. These were all linked to a Targeting Computer, making the 7D extremely accurate. The 'Mech also carried an ECM Suite for protection against electronic warfare equipment and was armored with fourteen tons of armor.[48] BV (1.0) = 1,582,[18] BV (2.0) = 1,986[49]

King Crab

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KGC-001 One of the so-called "Clanbuster" variants developed in 3052 during the lead-up to the Battle of Tukayyid, ComStar's techs replaced the twin autocannons with two M-7 Gauss Rifles and four tons of ammo in the arms, trading a minor reduction in destructive capacity for greatly increased range. While retaining the LRM launcher the large laser was upgraded to a Tronel XIII Large Pulse Laser and two Hovertec Streak SRM-2s, split between the side torsos with a single ton of reloads each, were added. These changes were accomplished by using an extralight engine in place of the standard model.[13] BV (1.0) = 1,714[14], BV (2.0) = 2,221[15][16]

I'll admit a few of those aren't exactly great, but we're still missing a lot of tech and no crit-splitting also limits our choices.

[Vellron2005]

TheArisen, on 06 November 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

Would it be possible to get a new variant of an existing mech? I know they plan mech releases well in advance but maybe something like when the Griffin 2N was released by itself would be cool.

Some options I'd like.
- Grasshopper 7K, ecm & JJ, energy boat variant. Would help make the GHopper more relavant.
- Phoenix Hawk 4L, Ecm, JJ, mg boat
- Firestarter S1, Ecm, JJ, laser boat.

Would you guys like a new variant of an existing chassis? Which chassis would you like to see get a new variant?

Oh friend, wouldn't that be a new mech?

But I would not mind some new variants.. maybe a nice Blood Asp with 2 missile slots on each torso, or a single missile slot and some energy slots on the arms..

Or perhaps a Supernova with 4 missile slots and ballistic slots?

[ThreeStooges]

Jay Leon Hart, on 07 November 2018 - 01:50 AM, said:

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Spider

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Jenner

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Raven
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I'll admit a few of those aren't exactly great, but we're still missing a lot of tech and no crit-splitting also limits our choices.

The Jenner and spider are do-able with current weapons. Nothing special about those and just becomes another meh mech in the hanger collecting dust. The spider is just a clone of the 5v. The worst of the worst light mechs in the game. the Jenner can be just done on the D or other variant. Still has all the problems of the Jenners. The raven is a huggin beaten with an ugly nerf stick. You can mock up a simular build on the 4x minus two mgs. At least the 4x has JJ option.

None of those variants adds anything the those mech chassis or light mech class. i'd rather see brand new light mechs that aren't clan copies 2cs or worse variants put in just because of someone going 'lights op!' wasting a light mech of very few we get a year if lucky. If people really wanted to play lights there are a ton of ways to make the current variants viable and you know pgi has no clue how when they give a mech an 80% quirk plus 10% skill tree quirk and that mech still is the worst mech in the game.