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[Aullido]

I can speak for the Warthog: It is a fine joystick an a lifetime investment. My old Cougar has 10 years and still working, besides, Thrustmaster support is very prompt and helpful. The Warthog's quality is even better than the Cougar's.

Remember that cheap could be expensive.

[Kenshar]

Best joystick of all = mouse and keyboard.

[Hawk819]

Logitech Extreme 3D Pro here.

[Adamus Kane]

i run a saitek X52 (as i see many of you are) and think it is a great stick for mech games. takes some getting used to and a lot of practice but the feel of having a stick and throttle in your hands makes the experience much more enjoyable.

[Joanna Conners]

I'm a big fan of my Microsoft 360 controller actually. It's the best controller I've ever used and I haven't bought a new joystick since Freespace 2 was new.

[ZanshinCatt]

5H13LD, on 25 July 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Anyone know where I could get a full setup? I want to make this a sim... I'm going to buy a couple monitors too... hope it will have the support.. wonder what can all be put in? I imagine something like a flight throttle and a joystick with maxed out buttons... I also wouldn't mind have the throttle built into the joystick too.. I have no idea where to start looking... Google pictures is where I'm going to start LOL

[Deceptor]

Question: do they commonly sell left hand variants of these crazy things?

[gilliam]

I don't think I have ever seen a lefty joystick.

[Hexcaliber]

Stay away from the G940, Logitech have not supported this stick for two years, the last driver release which was only its third driver update was in march 2010, and the quality of things like its rotaries is poor to say the least, most ppl who stay with the stick mod it. After purchasing this stick when it was released I will never again buy hardware from Logitech, previously I had spent a lot on Logitech (several thousand UKP's), owning several of their wheels, Logitech Z-5500 speaker system, and multiple mice over the years.

I now own the Thrustmaster warthog with Saitek pedals ilikepie linked earlier in the thread and could not be happier.

Edited by Hexcaliber, 30 July 2012 - 11:53 AM.

[MechRaccoon]

I've used 2 joysticks so far for MW4M: First: the Logitech Attack 3:



The thing has lots of buttons for all your coolant flushing zoom window toggling jump jetting laser shooting missile boating autocannon blasting poptarting (even though I don't use that tactic. I like getting my hands dirty in close quarters) needs, plus it feels very sturdy and durable. It's also quite cheap, at $19.99, at least on the Logitech website. Don't forget the built in throttle!

2nd, (which I just bought today, so this is first impressions, also I cant find good picture) the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.

This stick is basically the Attack 3's older, more advanced, and $10.00 more expensive BROTHA, it has an additional button on the side of the actual stick, letting you have your full 6 weapon groups on the stick itself, the joystick also has a rotating handle, and a POV HATT! It still has 6 buttons on the base and the throttle. Speaking of which, the throttle on the 3D Pro is actually looser than the Attack 3's, which is actually better. It lets you switch to full throttle or going back full speed easier. It's still quite cheap at 29.99, and it also feels quite durable. Definitely buy this one, or the Attack 3, if you don't have much room or money to spare. (The Extreme 3D takes up more room than Attack3.)

[Tankertoad 380th OMS]

Deceptor, on 29 July 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Question: do they commonly sell left hand variants of these crazy things?

I have an old Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold that was convertible from left to right hand. It's set up as a lefty.

Really hoping I can use it with MWO. Just dloaded it today and at the moment I've about 300 meg of the patch left to go.

[Murrdox]

I just looked at the link to the Saitek x52 Pro and I wet myself a little. I've also been looking at the Logitech stick that others have mentioned.

I'm really torn about this. Part of me wants to do more research and decide on a stick and buy one now. The other part of me wants to wait until Razer publishes some more news about the Artemis stick system.

http://www.pcgamer.c...warrior-online/

I wish I could get my old Sidewinder 3D pro to work, but sadly I haven't found anyone that can get that thing to work in Windows 7. Damn you Microsoft for releasing an awesome joystick and then not supporting it!!

[Grits N Gravy]

Deceptor, on 29 July 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Question: do they commonly sell left hand variants of these crazy things?

The Thrusthmaster T 16000m is easily adjusted to a Lefty and is one of the better sticks at the 50.00 USD price point. It's use of quality hall sensors give it better precision than X52 at a third of the cost.

The X52 has bit of a native deadzone due to the placement of the sensors inside the stick. It can easily be fixed by modding the stick, but this voids the warranty.

Most people end up cobbling together a HOTAS from various parts. Sans the warthog hotas, the most highly regarded setups in the flight sim community seem to be, CH for flight sticks, the X52 throttle, and Satiek pedals.

[Garamanus]

I can't aim my G940 to save myself... key going back to mouse & keyboard but want to use joystick.
Bought a Thrustmaster Hotas Cougar and will tell you how that goes

[Agigom]

Thanks for the Ideas still need to do some more contemplating on the matter.

[Anastasius]

Best joystick for this game is currently a mouse.

[Cole Allard]

iiiTRiBEiii, on 26 July 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

I was digging into the idea of the Logitech G940 but the reviews and support are both awefu,l apparently. I am withyou as far as making a sim-pit. It may not be out now but I think the Razer 'Artemis' might be worth waiting for, looks nasty and being built for MW:O

FYI the Saitek X52 Pro is on sale @ newegg, $63 off the price

And just for kicks and ideas, if you haven't seen this guys set up check it out

Ohhh...huuu...and what if my boss comes to visit or lunch? Will he ever take me serious again?

Question: did you try to scratch yourself while playing? Did it work?

(and no, dont take me serious, I'm just jalous)

[GRay111111]

I have used a Logitech 3d Pro for a long while in MW4:Mercs - it worked really well then BUT does not really function well enough in MWO - not accurate enough and too slow. Fiddling with joystick gain and sensitivity settings improves it a tad, but no where near enough to be useful.

So (being afan of joysticks in MW) I bought a SPeedlink Black Widow Hotas. Nope. Aweful centre detents make it useless for aiming (quite good throttle and rudder set up for "driving").

Next: Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS. Great stick (brill in flight sims). Mimimal centre detent, and a very light action stick (can be inc/decr via a large twisty knob underneath.). Twist stick (can be locked out) and throttle with rudder controls. THrottle and stock can be seperated to strech around a keyboard (good idea). Throtle is pretty good, has a centre detent/dip at 50% which is useful for MWO - idle. I still struggled with aiming even with user file tweaks.

Next up I tried, Thrustmaster's great T16000M (hall sensors) twist stick. VERY accurate readings from the sensors. Reasonable stick (would be great for flight sims), but still too strong a centre detent for my liking.

SO far the Tflight HOTAS is the best - with its minimal centre detent , light action and throttle with rudder.

This got me thinking......

Bought a 2nd hand Saitek x45 (throttle and stick).
Snip snip, drill, solder, BU0836 USB joystick board wired up (Leo Bodnar) etc:



This is MOSt useful.
I now game in MWO with throttle unit - avec 12 buttons, throttle, rudder, and use mouse for aiming. I find this is the best setup for me.
I miss a stick, but have the X45's stick I can plug in for nostalgia (might mod it to improve centre deten spring and smooth it up a bit later).

If you cant face modding a throttle to fit your needs (much work required!), then I recommend the Tflight HOTAS: using a mouse with just the throttle/rudder and ignoring the stick (unless you occasionally feel the need between battles (I did often use the stick for navigating and moving about).


Just my opinion, but hope it helps anyone out a little. .


p.s. the X45 rudder is spot on for steering the legs, but neds a mod to increase the size of the paddle where your little pinkie finger sits - as it is too far away unless you have fingers like foot long hot dogs. I screwed a small plastic plate to it (with hot glue to support and stick it) - shaped and smoothed. Works a treat, no more streching with my finger to reach the rudder - just needs to clear the body of the throttle when depressed.

Edited by GRay111111, 22 November 2012 - 12:41 PM.

[Mathmatics]

none the devs have made this game unplayable competitively with a hotas or stick. Sorry for your luck (and mine my fav way to pilot a mech has always been a saitek hotas)

[Esk]

Garamanus, on 20 November 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

I can't aim my G940 to save myself... key going back to mouse & keyboard but want to use joystick.
Bought a Thrustmaster Hotas Cougar and will tell you how that goes

I get the feeling i'd end up like this..
I've always used a joystick for full space sims/games, but never tried one on something like mech for some reason..

N52te for movement and joystick for upper torso controle's might work though...
Bah guess i'll have to try this now and takes some abuse while i get used to it lol..
I'll start with my Logitech Freedom 2.4, yeah its wireless and old but meh it'll do to try it out..