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[Summon3r]

where are these mechs? in the last few B-tech novels Ive read these chassis are very popular Im surprised they arent in MWO yet?

[Ilfi]

It should be here after they add Lao Hu and the Bane.

[Alex Morgaine]

Nope too many duplicates we just need 300 engine 2-3lpl and 4-6 erml rest dhs and that's covered by nearly every weight range.

[Thorn Hallis]

Pillager or Cerberus would rock more

[El Bandito]

Cerberus has my vote!

[FupDup]

Alex Morgaine, on 29 December 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

Nope too many duplicates we just need 300 engine 2-3lpl and 4-6 erml rest dhs and that's covered by nearly every weight range.

The Penetrator would let you do that with all high mounted hardpoints, whereas most IS mechs capable of that loadout have to use mostly or entirely low or lowish mounts. The lack of hand actuators (also unlike most IS laser vomit mechs) would let you pack in more stuffs as well.

I can guarentee PGI would make up a hero or reinforcement variant with ballistic arms, making it great for Gauss vomit or dakka vomit. Lastly, its JJ access would stand out among the IS 75-tonners because only the Thanny and Bounty Hunter 2 can equip them (of which the Thanny is a bad robot and the BH2 has mostly low hardpoints and is not a C-Bill mech).

And of course it's ripe for innuendos. Prepare for penetration!

Edited by FupDup, 30 December 2018 - 09:41 AM.

[Shadowomega1]

Well the Devastator likely was held off as it looks like an upscaled Warhammer and it wasn't till June/July 2018 that the Harmony Gold Case was crushed. So we might now see it appear in the next several months.

[Steel Raven]

The Devastator was name dropped in the early Beta so it wouldn't surprise me to see it.

I like the Penetrator in the Table Top but I can see it having the same trouble as the Thanatos; wide torso making it easy to target from afar.

It will be hard to make a effective Caesar that won't take away from the Cataphract as it started life as a Cataphract clone.

Have never been a big fan of the Cestus, always seem like TRO filler to me.

Cerberus fans will need to compete with Gunslinger fans as the two Gauss boats get a little redundant

I'll throw the Thunderhawk in as a possibility but it will likewise will need to compete with the Devastator.

The Exterminator would be interesting if pulled off right. Something the same size as the Roughneck with ECM and a chest full or MRMs.

Edited by Steel Raven, 29 December 2018 - 01:17 PM.

[FupDup]

Steel Raven, on 29 December 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

The Devastator was name dropped in the early Beta so it wouldn't surprise me to see it.

I like the Penetrator in the Table Top but I can see it having the same trouble as the Thanatos; wide torso making it easy to target from afar.

It will be hard to make a effective Caesar that won't take away from the Cataphract as it started life as a Cataphract clone.

Have never been a big fan of the Cestus, always seem like TRO filler to me.

Cerberus fans will need to compete with Gunslinger fans as the two Gauss boats get a little redundant

I'll throw the Thunderhawk in as a possibility but it will likewise will need to compete with the Devastator.

The Exterminator would be interesting if pulled off right. Something the same size as the Roughneck with ECM and a chest full or MRMs.

Thunder Hawk would probably be eligable for an increase to the number of Gauss Rifles you can charge simultaneously...but I dunno if we want to have 45 very long range zero heat PPFLD being flung around. Basically Extended Range twin Heavy Gauss Rifles that don't require STD engines.

[LT. HARDCASE]

The Cerberus is the only mech with potential that has been mentioned thus far.

The Ninja Turtle shells above the cockpit probably ruin its hitboxes though.

Edited by LT. HARDCASE, 29 December 2018 - 04:16 PM.

[El Bandito]

Steel Raven, on 29 December 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

Cerberus fans will need to compete with Gunslinger fans as the two Gauss boats get a little redundant

Not everything is about Gauss. Gunslinger only has max 2 ballistics, while Cerberus has 4 ballistics spread between the arms and the STs (the rear ST mounted MGs will be moved to the front). Which means it can run builds such as quad LBX, or 2xUAC10 + 2xUAC5, while offering better hitboxes/convergence than the NStar.

Edited by El Bandito, 31 December 2018 - 11:16 PM.

[LT. HARDCASE]

Gunslinger is like an imitation Cerberus. Similar at a glance, but less tons, smaller engines, less guns.

Ginslinger is little brother who is just about to hit puberty, while big bro Cerberus is already hitting the gym and chasing the girls.

[Grus]

Im still waiting for the Stone Rhino.

[Escef]

FupDup, on 29 December 2018 - 11:11 AM, said:

The Penetrator would let you do that with all high mounted hardpoints, whereas most IS mechs capable of that loadout have to use mostly or entirely low or lowish mounts. The lack of hand actuators (also unlike most IS laser vomit mechs) would let you pack in more stuffs as well.

I can guarentee PGI would make up a hero or reinforcement variant with ballistic arms, making it great for Gauss vomit or dakka vomit. Lastly, it would be the only other IS 75-tonner with JJ access, and the only one that could potentially be viable (RIP Thanny).

And of course it's ripe for innuendos. Prepare for penetration!

Most of the Marauders have jets as well (the 3R lacks them). The 5D and 5M both have 5 energy hardpoints (the 5D also has 2 missile points, the 5M has 2 ballistic), while the BH2 has 7 energy and a ballistic. Hell, you could rig the BH2 with 2xLPL, 5xERML, UAC5+2 tons ammo, 4xJJ, 424/462 armor, and +4 sinks (endo, light ferro, double sinks). https://mwo.smurfy-n...62e379fa85d318c Might be a little hot, but if you're willing to lose some range there's the possibility of dropping down to straight MLs instead of ERs.

I will also say that the Penetrator's torso weapons aren't really high (granted, higher than the Marauder's arm hardpoints), they're fairly comparable to the Warhammer's torso energy points.

[Vellron2005]

I don't mean to dump on this thread.. but I would very much prefer new maps instead of a bunch of new mechs..

[Apache1990]

Vellron2005, on 31 December 2018 - 01:19 AM, said:

I don't mean to dump on this thread.. but I would very much prefer new maps instead of a bunch of new mechs..

I'd rather they fix the bad hitboxes on the maps we already have before adding more buggy maps.

[Grus]

Stone

Mother ****ing

Rhino..

#micdrop

[Summon3r]

Thorn Hallis, on 29 December 2018 - 11:02 AM, said:

Pillager or Cerberus would rock more

indeed those 2 are very popular in the timeline im currently reading through as well def would like to see those.... only reason i ask is so the models are made for MW-5 and HBS-Btech

Vellron2005, on 31 December 2018 - 01:19 AM, said:

I don't mean to dump on this thread.. but I would very much prefer new maps instead of a bunch of new mechs..

what do you need new maps for? every single one (in group que anyway) devolve into rush-warrior then alpha-warrior and the battle is over inside 5 mins of being dropped. you dont even see the maps. ;-)

[GeminiWolf]

We need the 200 ton HolyDominator nothing less unless it is the NIGHT WOLF!!!!!

[Joe Mallad]

I want the Pillager and the Imp!!! A 100ton city fighter mech that can 360 torso spin like an Urbie lol