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#1 TheArisen

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:27 PM

Just look here at the MW5 pre-order page.
https://mw5mercs.com

#2 FupDup

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:28 PM

It's also posted on this website.

https://mwomercs.com...loadout-details

Guess we'll have to wait until next month for the next Clan gundam announcement.

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2019 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM

Marauder II is lame.
What does it provide that all the other IS 100t mechs dont?
Ah right 9 missile hard points... that's about it.
More LRM trash mechs incoming.

Edited by Antares102, 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM.


#4 TheArisen

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:

It's also posted on this website.

https://mwomercs.com...loadout-details

Guess we'll have to wait until next month for the next Clan gundam announcement.


Wait... Do you have to pre-order MW5 to be able to pre-order the Marauder II?

#5 FupDup

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:31 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Wait... Do you have to pre-order MW5 to be able to pre-order the Marauder II?

No, it looks like it will be sold separately.

View PostAntares102, on 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Marauder II is lame.
What does it provide that all the other IS 100t mechs dont?
Ah right 9 missile hard points... that's about it.
More LRM trash mechs incoming.

B-b-b-b-but look at those assault-class JJs! You might be able to hover, like, 10 meters above the ground if you mount all three jets!

EDIT: And one variant gets ECM, conveniently placed in the reinforcements pack.

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2019 - 12:32 PM.


#6 Battlemaster56

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:32 PM

As usual the mech looks sexy as usu from Alex, but to get it you have to supp MW5 Mercs for early preorder acess. (Would check it out but on phone so it kinda sh1tty reading it.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:33 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

No, it looks like it will be sold separately.


B-b-b-b-but look at those assault-class JJs! You might be able to hover, like, 10 meters above the ground if you mount all three jets!


Maybe it's just bad wording but it literally says
The Marauder II
Pre-order coming soon
Loadout Details Bellow

In the meantime,
you can qualify for Marauder II Preorder by pre-ordering this...


#8 Battlemaster56

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:33 PM

View PostAntares102, on 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Marauder II is lame.
What does it provide that all the other IS 100t mechs dont?
Ah right 9 missile hard points... that's about it.
More LRM trash mechs incoming.


Only the weak uses lrms, the strong pack mrms amd srms together on those 9 missile hps.

Hellfire will come down!!

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:34 PM

View PostAntares102, on 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Marauder II is lame.
What does it provide that all the other IS 100t mechs dont?
Ah right 9 missile hard points... that's about it.
More LRM trash mechs incoming.



Its going to provide thousands of the saltiest new players because they bring they're 100 ton mech into quick play lol

#10 FupDup

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:36 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 08 January 2019 - 12:33 PM, said:

Maybe it's just bad wording but it literally says
The Marauder II
Pre-order coming soon
Loadout Details Bellow

In the meantime,
you can qualify for Marauder II Preorder by pre-ordering this...

The "in the meantime" part is important, they're telling you that if you don't want to wait for the proper sale page on MWOMercs.com then you can get it straight away from the MW5 preorder.

I don't think PGI is going to put themselves through a PR nightmare by locking this mech behind a pre-order for a completely different game.

View PostBattlemaster56, on 08 January 2019 - 12:33 PM, said:

Only the weak uses lrms, the strong pack mrms amd srms together on those 9 missile hps.

Hellfire will come down!!

You can't mount 9 MRM launchers because one of those hardpoints is in the head and the smallest MRM launcher takes up 2 slots.

Also you never need that many hardpoints for MRMs because you can get 40 tubes in a single hardpoint. You'll need like 3-4 big launchers at most (quad MRM30, fire in two separate volleys?). Boating smaller launches doesn't give you much advantage anymore, it's just a downgrade to try that.

Edited by FupDup, 08 January 2019 - 12:37 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:40 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 12:36 PM, said:




You can't mount 9 MRM launchers because one of those hardpoints is in the head and the smallest MRM launcher takes up 2 slots.

Also you never need that many hardpoints for MRMs because you can get 40 tubes in a single hardpoint. You'll need like 3-4 big launchers at most. Boating smaller launches doesn't give you much advantage anymore, it's just a downgrade to try that.


Not trying to go for efficiency, just pure missile madness, plus I wanna try the limits of 9 missile hp 100 tonner.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:41 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 12:36 PM, said:

The "in the meantime" part is important, they're telling you that if you don't want to wait for the proper sale page on MWOMercs.com then you can get it straight away from the MW5 preorder.

I don't think PGI is going to put themselves through a PR nightmare by locking this mech behind a pre-order for a completely different game.


You can't mount 9 MRM launchers because one of those hardpoints is in the head and the smallest MRM launcher takes up 2 slots.

Also you never need that many hardpoints for MRMs because you can get 40 tubes in a single hardpoint. You'll need like 3-4 big launchers at most (quad MRM30, fire in two separate volleys?). Boating smaller launches doesn't give you much advantage anymore, it's just a downgrade to try that.


Yeah I guess you're right. It pays to be sure though haha.

The missile boat yeah I think quad Mrm30 will be common. 8 Srm6 might be doable as well, fire them 4 & 4.

#13 Antares102

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:43 PM

Have you see what a cash grab MW5 is... and I bet it will have Piranha style "microtransactions" implemented as well.

View PostFupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

EDIT: And one variant gets ECM, conveniently placed in the reinforcements pack.


This variant is practically the same as the Nightstar with ECM.
That's why I would not count it as something "new".

Edited by Antares102, 08 January 2019 - 12:44 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:45 PM

View PostAntares102, on 08 January 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

This varaint is practically the same as the Nightstar with ECM.
That's why I would not count it as something "new".

I'm not sure if I've even seen one person using the ECM Nightstar, so it was easy for me to forget that it even existed.

You get an extra 5 tons of giant robot with the Marry 2 though.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:47 PM

View PostAntares102, on 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Marauder II is lame.
What does it provide that all the other IS 100t mechs dont?
Ah right 9 missile hard points... that's about it.
More LRM trash mechs incoming.

View PostBattlemaster56, on 08 January 2019 - 12:40 PM, said:

Not trying to go for efficiency, just pure missile madness, plus I wanna try the limits of 9 missile hp 100 tonner.


It won't even be that good since most of the launchers are bunched up in the STs--causing slot shortage. Which means in order to take advantage of the 9 launchers for Lurms, you either have to boat a lot of smaller launchers that can be defeated with AMS, or you have to use Std engine, which restricts the available tonnage.

If the MAD-II had those launchers spread between arms and STs I would give it a try.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 January 2019 - 12:51 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:47 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 08 January 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

Wait... Do you have to pre-order MW5 to be able to pre-order the Marauder II?


Actually, the way I read it is that if you go with the MW5 pre-orders it sure the hell looks like they are including the Marauder II pre-order as part of the overall bundle, meaning in addition to pre-ordering MW5 your actually getting the Marauder II mech bundle as part of the price. If that is the case you are getting a pretty damn sweet deal.

As for what the Marauder II brings to the table that other IS 100 ton mechs don't offer, that is simple, the legendary Marauder hitboxes that make all the Marauder-based variants so tanky.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:48 PM

View PostFupDup, on 08 January 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

I'm not sure if I've even seen one person using the ECM Nightstar, ...

My point exactly. Marauder II with ECM doesn't anything new.
And the 5 extra tons are a joke that you have to pay dearly with reduced agility.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:53 PM

View PostAntares102, on 08 January 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

This variant is practically the same as the Nightstar with ECM.
That's why I would not count it as something "new".


This one might have better convergence than NStar's horribly spread out arms though. Also it doesn't have fixed hand actuator compared to NStar. Still, as long as it can't mount quad UAC5s, it is a dead variant to me.

Edited by El Bandito, 08 January 2019 - 12:57 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:57 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 08 January 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:


This one might have better convergence than NStar's horribly spread out arms though.

Granted but the mounts will be below cockpit level and as a 100t mechs it will have even less agility (not that I claim the Nightstar has good agility of course).

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 01:42 PM

Yay, another humdrum also-ran addition to the game.

Do IS Omnis already, ffs.





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