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We Desperately Need At Least 5 More Tiers. Higher Tiers.


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#1 LowSubmarino

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:25 PM

I just play normal games, of like 600 - 900 dmg and a few kills.

Nothing fancy.

But when you do twice as much dmg as your entire lance, you kinda wonder, why such completly inexperienced players, taht literally die fastser than a fly which gets hit with a nuclear bomb.

I mean.

They just melt.

I lost like ten matches.

Wouldnt complain if we at least put up a fight. But that was a masscare ten times. Not even a fight on any level.

I mean....my team just melted like they never even played a game in their lifes.

Id rather wait ten minutes for a match but not be thrown in with a team of complete noobs.

Seriously, if somebody cannot do 600 dmg....what are they doing in tier 1?????

What is the tier system worth if you get thrown in with completly new or simply weak players?

Why not put them in tier 5???

Even tier 4 would be way and over the top too high for them.

They were soo bad I mean.....lol.

Just lol.

Tier system is a joke.

If you do twice as much dmg as your entire team, not even by being insanely good and lucky too, but just by dishing out normal dmg....something is wrong.

Sucks to play with players that melt like that. Half the games we had I was the only one getting some dmg and kills.

Im not even that good. Just not a complete noob.

It sucks if you get such überweak teams.

Pls provide at thevery least 5 new or better 10 more tiers. And dont allow just anybody in those upper tiers. I mean, top tier should mean those are good f****** pilots, non?

Or what is the purpose of this completly abysmal tier system here. Who came up with that system anyway??

Id just fire that person right now. Cause that system sucks in a major way.

Edited by LowSubmarino, 30 January 2019 - 05:26 PM.


#2 FupDup

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:27 PM

Adding more tiers would only be a short-lived bandaid because the current system was deliberately designed by PGI to push players up the ladder over time if they possessed any level of sentience. The core of the issue is this upward bias "XP bar."

#3 Ikester

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:46 PM

This thread is semi-STUPID...!!!! Except FupDup. Good Explanation. Wish there were more....oh well.

#4 Potatomasher69

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:48 PM

Oh I remeber this guy. Don't remember him communicating anything, then had emotions to share at the defeat screen just before he disconnected.

Communicates with mind bullets, clearly five tiers ahead of us all.

They should just have two tiers. Simply check a box that says "I'm five tiers ahead of everyone" and you que in tier 1. When you don't have the box checked, you que in tier alcoholics.

#5 HammerMaster

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 05:52 PM

Check out Appogee's posts on the very topic.

#6 JediPanther

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:13 PM

This post is just to increase my post count. None of you shall ever break my post count! Except that guy and that guy and maybe that guy since more dam tiers and divisions and buckets and ques and banana splits and beer and ******* is just what this game needs in 2019.

#7 FupDup

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

View PostJediPanther, on 30 January 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

This post is just to increase my post count. None of you shall ever break my post count!

Those are rookie numbers. Get on my level!

#8 Antares102

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

View PostLowSubmarino, on 30 January 2019 - 05:28 PM, said:


Have you ever talked to a woman in your life that aint your mommy?

Cause you sound like that.

That supposed to impress me on any level, noob?

Well, maybe the problem is really you.
Ever considered that?
Your posting is really hard to read with all those extra lines.

Edited by Antares102, 30 January 2019 - 06:15 PM.


#9 Captain Polux

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:18 PM

View PostAntares102, on 30 January 2019 - 06:14 PM, said:

Well, maybe the problem is really you.
Ever considered that?
Your posting is really hard to read with all those extra lines.


What does self-awareness even mean??!!

#10 LordNothing

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:40 PM

we dont need more tiers, we just need the ones we have to actually mean something.

#11 GeminiWolf

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:52 PM

View PostLowSubmarino, on 30 January 2019 - 05:25 PM, said:

I just play normal games, of like 600 - 900 dmg and a few kills.

Nothing fancy.

But when you do twice as much dmg as your entire lance, you kinda wonder, why such completly inexperienced players, taht literally die fastser than a fly which gets hit with a nuclear bomb.

I mean.

They just melt.

I lost like ten matches.

Wouldnt complain if we at least put up a fight. But that was a masscare ten times. Not even a fight on any level.

I mean....my team just melted like they never even played a game in their lifes.

Id rather wait ten minutes for a match but not be thrown in with a team of complete noobs.

Seriously, if somebody cannot do 600 dmg....what are they doing in tier 1?????

What is the tier system worth if you get thrown in with completly new or simply weak players?

Why not put them in tier 5???

Even tier 4 would be way and over the top too high for them.

They were soo bad I mean.....lol.

Just lol.

Tier system is a joke.

If you do twice as much dmg as your entire team, not even by being insanely good and lucky too, but just by dishing out normal dmg....something is wrong.

Sucks to play with players that melt like that. Half the games we had I was the only one getting some dmg and kills.

Im not even that good. Just not a complete noob.

It sucks if you get such überweak teams.

Pls provide at thevery least 5 new or better 10 more tiers. And dont allow just anybody in those upper tiers. I mean, top tier should mean those are good f****** pilots, non?

Or what is the purpose of this completly abysmal tier system here. Who came up with that system anyway??

Id just fire that person right now. Cause that system sucks in a major way.

Yes your LURM damage did more than the rest of your team. *slow clap*

#12 LowSubmarino

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:41 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 30 January 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

we dont need more tiers, we just need the ones we have to actually mean something.


Thank you.

A dood, here, among all the boys, that actually addresses the issue that I raised, and doesnt hammer his fist on his hairless chest?

truely. Im impressed.

Yes, the tier system really is abysmal. rest of you need to get out more. i dont give one flyng f about any insults. Bring it on. I think its funny.

#13 WrathOfDeadguy

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:43 PM

Let's add even more buckets, because that'll totally help and not make the declining population leave even faster! But at least I won't have to play with scrubs, and that's what matters, because I'm the most important player!

#14 InspectorG

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM

With the population where it currently is...

Just randomize the MM and drop the pretense of PSR/Tiers.

#15 LowSubmarino

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:52 PM

View PostWrathOfDeadguy, on 30 January 2019 - 07:43 PM, said:

Let's add even more buckets, because that'll totally help and not make the declining population leave even faster! But at least I won't have to play with scrubs, and that's what matters, because I'm the most important player!


hahaha....do you even think before you type?

Why does literally nobody play faction play. Why do you have to wait forever for a faction match, eh?

one major reason ist, that the match maker wasnt only abysmal, but so insanely bad, that lambs vs machine guns would have been more fair and balanced.

And you truely think that an entirely imbalanced match maker or tier system is irrelevant?

You have no idea what you are talking about. Playing with ppl that are obviously brand new vs a team that is ten times stronger is no fun. Because you cannot win with such a team, no matter how hard you carry. Brand new players, should play with ppl of equal experience. That is more fun for them and more fun for ppl that have played much longer because otherwise you loose more and more players.

And I never said im the best player or above evybody else. Where exactly did I ever mention that?

You all have played this game quite a bit I would assume. And you honestly dont see the major flaws in this game?

Then you are blind. I said what I had to say. I honestly dont care about being popular here. Your insults are meaningless. Your input without any value. The only person that made some sense was lordnothing.

He has my respect.

#16 adamts01

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:07 PM

Games were actually great when PSR was first released, and then again after the reset. But we did have a ton more players at those points. Then after about 2 weeks the potatoes made it in to tier 1 games....

There's no hope for a good matchmaker with so few players, not at this point. Who came up with the idea that tanking players based on experience instead of skill was a good idea? Little children picking players for dodgeball know better.



#17 Variant1

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:33 PM

How bout we instead just get a matchmaker that isint a stack of poopoo pancakes and instead evenly distribute players with low avg score on both teams instead of randomly throwing darts and hoping a match comes out even........

#18 Potatomasher69

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:57 PM

My average match score depends highly on how much I've had to drink. Matchmaker should be using a blood alcohol content number to correctly make teams.

#19 Khobai

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:02 PM

good idea lets add even more buckets to a game that already has no players. so then nobody can play eachother. and queue times will be forever.

with the game's population on critical life support there should quite frankly be NO TIERS.

instead there should be a 1 bucket ELO system that pulls all players from 1 bucket and tries to balance the teams based on average ELO.

#20 Cazador88

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:27 PM

Adding more tiers doesn't really solve anything without a proper matchmaker but if we get one then again not much use for more tiers anyway. Even if we get a few more tiers the same thing will happen as is happening now that is the potatoes will eventually get to the top tiers again. This tier system is easily abused anyway by some people. Have you ever thought why some so called good players (considered good by jarls list standards) always seem to appear only on anyones minimap or can be seen face to face when their meatshields are running low on numbers then suddenly doing top kills and damage in the endscore? I don't consider myself good maybe even below average a bit but i myself am usually the first one willing to take the bullet instead of statwhoring so our team wins the match so theres one reason why my stats usually suck. Another thing about personal performance ingame is that when someone with average scores gets put together with a team that actually knows what their team is about to do (even without a single word being said on comms) against a yolo suicide/hide/runaround in circles team that players average performance drastically improves too, meaning the more times someone gets put together with a better team their own stats start reflecting that and it doesn't necessarily mean they are being carried.





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