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[JUGMAN]

You got to love PGI.....Should work.

give it 30 minutes and some programmer will have the macros ready on Reddit. How about just banning Macros all together. My God why make it so dam hard all the time.

[RickySpanish]

Antares102, on 04 February 2019 - 01:58 PM, said:

Doing software for all my life myself... that's why I am worried about the wording.

It's not about the lack of testing imo; it's an admission that they simply have no way of being absolutely sure that whatever fix they implemented isn't breakable under certain conditions. This is about as "fixed" as something can get when you throw in the complexities of networking and asynchronous data transfer. Hopefully they've solved it server-side so that there's "absolutely" no way a weapon is going to shoot if doing so would cause it to deal more damage per second than its allowed maximum.

Edited by RickySpanish, 04 February 2019 - 02:18 PM.

[Toddasaurus]

Xeno Phalcon, on 04 February 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

Huh apparently it did in some way effect mguns, VINDICATION IS MINE!

Yeah. I was testing it the other day and it improves damage/ammo usage by ~15% at most. Others may have gotten more than me. Either way, I'M GLAD PGI FINALLY RECOGNIZED THAT THIS IS AN EXPLOIT! Yaaaayyyy for the fix!!!

Now, personally, I kind of wish PGI would not allow *any* macros/scripts in the game. Oh well. I'm happy with this though.

Edited by Toddasaurus, 04 February 2019 - 02:21 PM.

[NUMBERZero1032]

Should have made it a feature to put any class of JJ onto any mech. God that would have been hilarious.

[GROLSCH]

Looks like it works, thanks for the much-needed fix!

[VonBruinwald]

Brauer, on 04 February 2019 - 11:39 AM, said:

PGI defines what is cheating here, and they have decided macros are fine.

Unless you're playing for money.

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Prohibited software includes (but may not be limited to):

• Macro software
  
• Graphical enhancement software
  
• VoIP (VoIP for the World Finals will be handled via a local comm system)
  
• Cheat/exploit tools

[Dee Eight]

Toddasaurus, on 04 February 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

Yeah. I was testing it the other day and it improves damage/ammo usage by ~15% at most. Others may have gotten more than me. Either way, I'M GLAD PGI FINALLY RECOGNIZED THAT THIS IS AN EXPLOIT! Yaaaayyyy for the fix!!!

Its not going to affect ammo usage to kill a mech. If the mech has 100 health in the CT for example, you still need to fire enough ammo to do 100 damage. What the macro did was speed up the rate of fire, and thus the DPS by 35-40% and eliminated the jamming and ghost heating penalty.

VonBruinwald, on 04 February 2019 - 02:33 PM, said:

Unless you're playing for money.

Yes... apparently cheating is fine if money isn't on the line...

[D V Devnull]

<*Looks for the HotFix Patch Download Link... Fails to find one...*>

I wish I could understand why PGI doesn't have the HotFix Patch Download Link posted up by the time their Servers are all back to Online Status visibly. Alright, here I go tracking the HotFix Patch down again...

Version ----------->> 1,4,195,0
Size --------------->> ~6.25 MB
Download Link -->> 'http://patcher.mwomercs.com/patch/Production/frontend/FrontendPatch_353.zip'

...and may the rest of you enjoy. Sadly, I had to lose a lot of time to find this.

~Mr. D. V. "wishing PGI would make sure to put up the Download Links in the future" Devnull

[kf envy]

InnerSphereNews, on 04 February 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

Greetings MechWarriors,



A Hot-Fix is scheduled to occur today, February 4th at 2PM PDT (10PM UTC), to address the following fixes:

• 'Mechs equipped with the wrong Jump Jet class can no longer launch into a match.

• Macro software should no longer be able to output more than the standard damage rate on weapons such as Rotary Auto Cannons and Machine Guns.

Thank you for your patience and understanding!



Direct Download: TBD

I have a problem with that word. im taking it at there an 50% chance that its fixed

[Soedrin]

Title and link incorrectly indicated this hot-fix being from Feb 4th 2018 (a year ago today).

[Soedrin]

While the incorrect date of title and link are unimportant now it could cause confusion in the next year or two should this thread popup in someones research on related topics...

[RickySpanish]

JUGMAN, on 04 February 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

Post unapproved.

Lol. Seriously. Because a multi-million dollar company's entire QA / testing / design departments are compareable to a small Game Development studio in Vancouver, BC. Also, wasn't there a rather high profile software failure with a new Boeing plane recently that led to everyone dying?

[Akillius]

Toddasaurus, on 04 February 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

Yeah. I was testing it the other day and it improves damage/ammo usage by ~15% at most. Others may have gotten more than me. Either way, I'M GLAD PGI FINALLY RECOGNIZED THAT THIS IS AN EXPLOIT! Yaaaayyyy for the fix!!!

Now, personally, I kind of wish PGI would not allow *any* macros/scripts in the game. Oh well. I'm happy with this though.

Some had gotten 40% improvement on DPS (Damage Per Second).
But most like to believe their own thing so have a look at someone else's proof of concept video from last week
Same mech and Atlas downed at 7 seconds versus 11 seconds.
https://streamable.com/g7u6q

Edited by Akillius, 04 February 2019 - 03:16 PM.

[VonBruinwald]

RickySpanish, on 04 February 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

Also, wasn't there a rather high profile software failure with a new Boeing plane recently that led to everyone dying?

Would you jump on the next Boeing if they said their fix "should" work...

[Akillius]

VonBruinwald, on 04 February 2019 - 03:15 PM, said:

Would you jump on the next Boeing if they said their fix "should" work...

I'm ex-infantry and know what its like to jump off a twin engine heuy after contour flying and see a 6ft piece of tree branch stuck in skid... so yeah should wouldn't bother me at all.

But more importantly...
Should here means PGI is actually going to watch this one closely and fix any additional RAC cheating/problems asap!

[Major Major Catch 22]

Thankyou PGI,

[VeeOt Dragon]

personally I think using any Marcros or outside programs that would give you an edge should result in a perma ban. no questions asked, cheating is still cheating. (and people wonder why I mostly play console games, far less chance of this kind of thing)

glad to see them doing at least something about it though

Edited by VeeOt Dragon, 04 February 2019 - 04:06 PM.

[Appogee]

I reckon jump jet macros also have a significant effect on the game. It'd be great to see those detected and prohibited, too.

(I don't use any macros on principle.)

Edited by Appogee, 04 February 2019 - 04:15 PM.

[Mad Dog Morgan]

Appogee, on 04 February 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

I reckon jump jet macros also have a significant effect on the game. It'd be great to see those detected and prohibited, too.

(I don't use any macros on principle.)

What are you smoking? I want some.

[Scout Derek]

Appogee, on 04 February 2019 - 04:09 PM, said:

I reckon jump jet macros also have a significant effect on the game. It'd be great to see those detected and prohibited, too.

(I don't use any macros on principle.)

no... no...

There's so much wrong with this statement.