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[Jay Leon Hart]

Acersecomic, on 20 March 2019 - 04:35 AM, said:

Nonsense. I've seen a few good builds. Do you know that Heavy small lasers do as much as IS medium lasers? Some Locusts and Fleas pack 4 mediums and that's it.

EDIT: 4t engine saves you half a ton after you add the extra needed heatsink. Add two LAMS instead of two AMS and that means you need to bring less ammo for AMS as well, 1, 2 or 1,5t is enough and you saved more tons again. Cut a lot from head a very little from arms and you got 3,5t to work with. It's just about playing around and not thinking like you would xD Odd way to put it.

Do you know HSLs do more damage than IS MLs?

I wouldn't drop the engine, since it's already (potentially) slower than the Locust and lacks the (potential) MASC of the Flea or (potential) ECM of both.

I wouldn't want to run 1 LAMs on just 10 DHS, never mind 2. Though I guess if you're OK with toggling it, at least you won't cook yourself. But then again, you won't be providing any AMS cover when your team really needs it.

If it works for you, great, but I'm sure most players would get better performance (team protection, MS, damage, kills, wins) with a 3 AMS + ECM Kit Fox. I guess it could have a place in FP, but I've barely touched the proper version since they combined the buckets.

GeminiWolf, on 20 March 2019 - 04:45 PM, said:

Not a waste if it makes me smile

True

GeminiWolf, on 20 March 2019 - 04:45 PM, said:

Jay Jay Jay... 2 LAMS and 2 Standard don't require that much ammo

They do require more than 10 DHS and/or toggling though, and sacrifice effective (or any) missile cover once it really starts to rain.

[Asym]

Hazeclaw, on 20 March 2019 - 05:37 AM, said:

Yes a defensive weapon thats supposed to be effective against a no risk offensive weapon is now actually effective. THE HORROR

Ha.... the irony of this fact. Makes me giggle and I'm too old to actually giggle.... For years, AMS has been available and month after month a large number of pilots simply wouldn't mount the tool and were eaten alive by the least effective weapon in the game.........and screamed bloody murder because they think they are "that GuD;" and, complained, and whined, and threatened to leave......even though LRMs have three direct counters the whining few never used.....

Now, AN EXPLOIT comes around and guess what - WA-LA, PRESTO ! Guess who is running around with triple AMS.......those very same people.... Oh, the Irony of it..... How funny !

[Lykaon]

GeminiWolf, on 19 March 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:

My 4 AMS Piranha...It makes me extremely happy now, so happy I am laughing outloud during matches. Im laughing so loudly its scaring the neighbors. I had to fit it with the Halloween Pumpkin Warhorns just to emulate what Im doing as LRMs explode around me. Just wish it would go off everytime my AMS destroys a volley of LRM's.

Summing this up...

You are super thrilled that your mech is performing a task that began and basically ended in the mechlab and requires nearly no action by it's pilot other than being within 200m of a missile volley.

Do you know what would be super effective and utilize some skillsets?

Piloting pretty much any other PIR chassis loaded up with weapons and hunting down LRM boats.

[K O Z A K]

Asym, on 21 March 2019 - 06:48 AM, said:

Ha.... the irony of this fact. Makes me giggle and I'm too old to actually giggle.... For years, AMS has been available and month after month a large number of pilots simply wouldn't mount the tool and were eaten alive by the least effective weapon in the game.........and screamed bloody murder because they think they are "that GuD;" and, complained, and whined, and threatened to leave......even though LRMs have three direct counters the whining few never used.....

Now, AN EXPLOIT comes around and guess what - WA-LA, PRESTO ! Guess who is running around with triple AMS.......those very same people.... Oh, the Irony of it..... How funny !

Or you know....maybe it's because ams was too weak to do almost anything against lrms before, but now it actually does something?

Don't worry, once all the 4 ams corsairs lose the "new toy" factor and get shelved lrm spam will still be able to overwhelm the few single ams mechs you'll see every drop, because putting ams on your mech is a trade off, it helps defend against missile spam, but makes you less effective against ballistic/energy mechs. The only difference will be that terrible selfish players will now get 500-700 damage instead of 1000-1500. And who knows a few of the lrm specialists just might start getting closer with their team and getting direct locks for the extra anti ams effect (you know the thing they always claim to do on the forums but you'd never see them do in game)

[Asym]

talk is cheap..... Until, you hit the assault in front of you with the new LOS LRM's... Ooops ! Did I do that? Crap !!!

[Avlaen]

Direct fire lrms can easily hit before AMS takes them out, my LRM mechs have been doing even better than before thanks to direct fire