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[The6thMessenger]

InnerSphereNews, on 01 December 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

HARDPOINTS

Head: 1 Missile
Left Arm: 1 Ballistic
Left Torso: 1 Ballistic, 1 AMS
Center Torso: 1 Missile
Right Torso: 1 Energy, 1 Missile, 1 AMS
Right Arm: 2 Energy

It's not really promising, and I didn't even enjoy the Warhammer-IIC Bludgeon. Well, It's free, so what do you think? What could this frankenmech pull off?

I was thinking of 2x AMS + 3x ERML + MRM40 + 2x UAC10.

EDIT:

Nevermind, I couldn't fit it. 2x UAC10 + MRM40

But this seems prudent, since it's LRM-pocalypse and I should have umbrellas: MRM40 + MRM10 + UAC20 + 2x AMS

I could probably get away with 2x UAC10 + 3x SRM4. Honestly though, that seems to be too weak for the weight it has.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 17 March 2019 - 04:34 AM.

[Acersecomic]

RAC2 + RAC5 with 3 lasers and MRM30? Something along those lines.
You could even forego arm ballistic and add larger lasers and missiles.
Oh and all the AMS you can fit on it.
I'll try to mimic my Atlas K build with UAC20, all Medium lasers I can fit, MRM30 and double AMS.

Kinda like this but with Corsair placements and minor tweaks.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cbabe4fa12b04f6

My AtlasK also moves at 55km/h, has UAC20, MRM30, 4 MLs and 2AMS with 18 double heatsinks.
Performs really well, its heat menagment is very nice and I protect myself and the team from LRM blight to the best of mech's abilities with two AMS skill nodes.

So I highly recommend you try this build on the Free Hero.

Edited by Acersecomic, 17 March 2019 - 08:20 AM.

[RickySpanish]

It has 20% cooldown for gauss so I might just try and keep them as a start and add some large lasers.

But also... How the actual F is the geometry organized there? The missile pods for the head and CT line up with the cockpit on the left side of the 'Mech, so exactly how are the hitboxes distributed??

[LordNothing]

the bundgeon wasnt bad as a dual cerppc platform, with some lasers as backup. i initially had 3 medpulse, but i downgraded 2 of them to ermed so i could equip ams and a buttload of ammunition. i might go back if the indirect fire nerfs put the current state of missile usage into check.

corsair looks a little disappointing. its going to be another mediocre mixed build. probably work as a ballistic+srm brawler. that high laser and missile point in the rt might be a good place to put an hppc and some mrms if you want to go the hill humper route (probibly enough tonnage left over to stick a big gun in the lt). id want to see how the missile patch goes before deciding whether or not to use the dual ams or not.

Edited by LordNothing, 17 March 2019 - 09:12 AM.

[Acersecomic]

LordNothing, on 17 March 2019 - 09:03 AM, said:

corsair looks a little disappointing. its going to be another mediocre mixed build.

What makes you think so? What aside from lack of armor quirks makes it disappointing? It has a good amount of hardpoints, good grouping and convergence on all of them, plus two ams. True it looks like hitboxes will be odd but eh, just don't play it too agressively and you'll get used to it.
I happen to enjoy builds like this and find the gameplay interesting and not boring like meta builds.

[LordNothing]

Acersecomic, on 17 March 2019 - 09:23 AM, said:

What makes you think so? What aside from lack of armor quirks makes it disappointing? It has a good amount of hardpoints, good grouping and convergence on all of them, plus two ams. True it looks like hitboxes will be odd but eh, just don't play it too agressively and you'll get used to it.
I happen to enjoy builds like this and find the gameplay interesting and not boring like meta builds.

i mean its ok for a freebie, but its not going to be taking any space in my drop decks any time soon.

ok that's not entirely true, i will probably level it in fp.

Edited by LordNothing, 17 March 2019 - 09:39 AM.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

The hardpoint placement isn't exactly ideal for convergence or peeking, but 2xGauss+3xLL/ERLL is possible, and given the quirks I think that's what I'm likely to try first with it.

*edit- Not for the first time with a new 'Mech, I find myself wishing that a ballistic arm lacked hand and lower actuators. Deadside dual AC20 would be great on this with as much real estate as the RT is likely to take up, what with the offset cockpit and CT weapons. The sidepeek profile for those ballistic mounts is pretty awesome, especially for a 95-tonner... about 1/3 chassis exposure to fire two large ballistics is better than the much smaller VTR-9A1 and it's worlds better than the Nightstar, Cyclops, Mauler, Fafnir, King Crab, or Annihilator. It can twist through 90 degrees, so once you've fired you could quite literally disappear your torso back around the corner without even moving your legs.

Although... you can do Gauss+HGauss with it for a 40-pt PPFLD sidepeek. With the aforementioned excellent sidepeek exposure. Hm. Worthwhile, or wasteful?

Edited by WrathOfDeadguy, 17 March 2019 - 10:00 AM.

[Acersecomic]

LordNothing, on 17 March 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

i mean its ok for a freebie, but its not going to be taking any space in my drop decks any time soon.

ok that's not entirely true, i will probably level it in fp.

It doesn't have to take up slot in dropdeck. If every new mech was to take a slot in dropdeck, then it would clearly and without a doubt be a powercreep with each new release.
Instead it is a good mech that will be able to do good with a wee bit of tinkering and trying out stuff. After all, isn't the mechlab and trying out builds the thing we like the most about the game?
As for FP deck if you really want to, you could try LRMs, Gausses and Large Lasers. After all, most except for one ballistic are placed high and you could play it as kind of a sniper since it doesn't seem too durable for prolonged peeking skirmishes.

Edited by Acersecomic, 17 March 2019 - 09:53 AM.

[LordNothing]

Acersecomic, on 17 March 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

It doesn't have to take up slot in dropdeck. If every new mech was to take a slot in dropdeck, then it would clearly and without a doubt be a powercreep with each new release.
Instead it is a good mech that will be able to do good with a wee bit of tinkering and trying out stuff. After all, isn't the mechlab and trying out builds the thing we like the most about the game?
As for FP deck if you really want to, you could try LRMs, Gausses and Large Lasers. After all, most except for one ballistic are placed high and you could play it as kind of a sniper since it doesn't seem too durable for prolonged peeking skirmishes.

see the thing is this will be my 252nd mech. i have detailed spreadsheets which show which mechs are my best performers. mechs with sufficiently high ratings get put in decks and are equipped for fp. this one probably wont be on the top of that list when its fully leveled and has some games under its belt.

Edited by LordNothing, 17 March 2019 - 12:28 PM.

[Acersecomic]

Here is the Corsair build. It has two Heatsinks less because AMS on Left Torso would not allow Light Engine with UAC20 and it only has a ton of AMS ammo. If you want two more heatsinks you will have to put a smaller ballistic or one AMS less to fit a Light Engine.

https://mech.nav-alp...e2519cbc_COR-HB
HOLIDAY BONUS
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[BrunoSSace]

Dual Gauss 3 large lasers and dual ams
Or mrm 30, 3 large lasers, 1 Gauss Rifle.

[LordNothing]

lets see some of my theory crafting:

std305+lb20+hppc+mrm40+2erml
lfe250+uac20+mrm30+lpl+2erll+srm10
lfe296+uac15+srm16+3ll
xl345+2ac10+mrm50+2ams (berzerker build)
std315+hgauss+srm16+3mpl

Edited by LordNothing, 17 March 2019 - 04:59 PM.

[Ilfi]

Dual Gauss + 3 ERLL is the best use of quirks. Problem is the hard points are all over the place. Will wait and see how the Mech moves and plays first.

[Angel of Annihilation]

I think I might go something like this:

HOLIDAY BONUS

Of course that depends on the durability and hitboxes of the mech.

Honestly, I doubt I play this mech much at all. I really don't like much about it from its look to its lore.

[GeminiWolf]

Everytime I play, it will be with this mech... key words, everytime I play.

[Felbombling]

I'm pretty bummed about the arm + torso configuration for the ballistic and energy hardpoints. It makes it fairly difficult to match them up for optimal usage. Perhaps a Heavy Gauss Rifle in the torso is called for, to take advantage of the +20% rof buff, and add some short range energy/missile support for it.

Should be interesting to see the different configurations people come up with, no doubt.

[Zortat Defense System]

i will be trying these....

https://mech.nav-alp...c329d6a4_COR-HB
https://mech.nav-alp...165ab945_COR-HB
https://mech.nav-alp...72caff82_COR-HB

[FRAGTAST1C]

Wait, why does that image show two arms? It's supposed to have one arm and one.... something else. Now, I'm disappointed.

[Athom83]

Athom83, on 13 March 2019 - 07:56 PM, said:

For the Holliday one I'm thinking I'm going to start off with 2 UAC/10s, 3 SRM4s, and then some sort of lasers (still debating between trying to fit 2 LLs or if I'm going to do 3 ERML/MPLs). Though, its tough to say if I'll try a (U)AC/20 + whatever else brawler build as I have no idea where the left torso ballistic would go (unlike all the concept arts showing the RT ballistic slot).

That said; For the 5R I'd most likely swap out the AC/10 for either a RAC/5 or an LB10, then fit the torso missile as some sort of MRM or a LRM10a, and fill all 5 energy mounts with ERML/MPL. The 6R I could 'meme' and do D-HGauss or double (U)AC/20s, but I think what I'm doing first is fit the ballistics both as UAC/5s, fit 3 LRM10s, and have the 3 energy as ERMLs. And for the 7A... Oh I got plans for this one that even I'm not willing to share. I'm using all 4 AMS for sure, that's a given.

Edit; Only now do I realize I bought the Ultimate pack and have everything... Oh dang... Okay... this is fine.
5T: I see no reason to change it. 6 AC/2s seem pretty memetastic to me. Though 6 LB2s or UAC/2s seem 'equally' as fun.
7R: Again, stock looks mostly fine. 2 Missile slots in the CT of an assault is... pretty weird and 2 RL10s is pretty much the only thing for it (unless I want to SRM4 spam, which would definitely work).
Ravager: Pffftttt... idk. 2 Ultra 5s, 3 LPLs, and 3ERML? 2 RAC/5s and 6 MPL? An LB20 and a RAC/2? Okay, that one was a joke, but I've tried something similar and it was hilariously fun so now I just have to try it.

FRAGTAST1C, on 17 March 2019 - 06:35 PM, said:

Wait, why does that image show two arms? It's supposed to have one arm and one.... something else. Now, I'm disappointed.

Its different per variant.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Probably the boring usual;
2 UAC10 + 3 LL
2 AC10 + 2 PPC
Depends on the mounts (and if I play a single match this month)