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#1 N a p e s

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 07:59 AM

The mech just dropped for c-bills a month ago and I finally picked one up. After looking at the variants I settled on the the HLF-A (for now) since it drops mass lasers in favor of some missiles and a ballistic hardpoint.

The obvious builds are something like HLF-A1 or HLF-A2 and I'm having a ton of fun with these. Currently running the A1 variant with an LBX instead of the UAC but gonna swap to the UAC soon.

Now, it isn't mastered (I'm trying to avoid using my HSP just to see how it feels to actually level a mech nowadays) so there's still plenty of room for improvement on that end but its been a relatively potent skirmisher that can dish out some serious damage. Granted, the hitboxes are pretty bad so I'm really looking forward to getting some points invested into survivability. Still, as a very mobile splat platform this thing feels really good to pilot.

Doesn't seem like these get a lot of love in game? Any one else a fan of this mech?

#2 Aleski

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:21 AM

I have buy the heroe Void variant for the sale. I really love it ! I am a fan of MASC chassis.

I am using the classic UAC/20 + 5xERML, but i am going to try some different loadouts. I have not completely skilled it yet. It is, indeed, very squishy and i am goging to invest in the survival skill node a lot.

It is a very solid 60 tons mech in my opinion, but i perform better in my two vulture chassis (the prime and Revenant).

Anyway, has you have stated, they are not very common and need some love =)

#3 Athom83

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:24 AM

Eh, its alright. Very fragile compared to other similar clan mechs (Linebacker, Stormcrow, etc). I picked up the Void with spare MC from events while it was on sale, and it's pretty meh for my style. I like the MASC, but its pretty tonnage starved for all the slots it has.

#4 TheArisen

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:26 AM

I haven't had time to try mine out due to being out of town but I'm pretty excited for it.

#5 Shadowomega1

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:53 AM

Got the Hellfire 1 and 2 and those side torso pop so fast it isn't funny.

#6 N a p e s

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:20 AM

View PostAleski, on 03 April 2019 - 08:21 AM, said:

I have buy the heroe Void variant for the sale. I really love it ! I am a fan of MASC chassis.

I am using the classic UAC/20 + 5xERML, but i am going to try some different loadouts. I have not completely skilled it yet. It is, indeed, very squishy and i am goging to invest in the survival skill node a lot.

It is a very solid 60 tons mech in my opinion, but i perform better in my two vulture chassis (the prime and Revenant).

Anyway, has you have stated, they are not very common and need some love =)


I'm considering the Void aswell, 5 ERML and a UAC20 must work pretty well.

View PostAthom83, on 03 April 2019 - 08:24 AM, said:

Eh, its alright. Very fragile compared to other similar clan mechs (Linebacker, Stormcrow, etc). I picked up the Void with spare MC from events while it was on sale, and it's pretty meh for my style. I like the MASC, but its pretty tonnage starved for all the slots it has.


All about the MASC, it definitely sets it apart from the other mechs in the same class. Not sure I agree with it being tonnage starved though since it gets 30.5 tons (assuming FF and Endo) of pod space with full armor, an XL280 (for 75.6 kph) and MASC. Thats kind of up to preferences in relation to available hard points, so it depends how you like to build your mechs.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 09:59 AM

View PostShadowomega1, on 03 April 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

Got the Hellfire 1 and 2 and those side torso pop so fast it isn't funny.

This was my issue with the mech. Being a clan Battlemech I figured I could do some fun things with it like I could with an Orion IIC. Nope. Too many of the variants stick you with a low engine cap, and its overall durability is garbage. It can pack a great loadout for its tonnage but I found that either the Huntsman or the Mad Dog simply let me stay in the game longer. For some odd reason the Ebon Jaguar seems to hold up longer as well, even though it doesn't have any durability quirks either.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:24 AM

View PostFireStoat, on 03 April 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

For some odd reason the Ebon Jaguar seems to hold up longer as well, even though it doesn't have any durability quirks either.

Ebon has fantastic hit boxes, thats why.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:27 AM

View PostGladiolix, on 03 April 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

Ebon has fantastic hit boxes, thats why.

Fantastic compared to the Hellfire maybe, otherwise it's about average or slightly below average for heavy mech hitboxes (pretty easy to pick out which hitbox you want to hit).

#10 N a p e s

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:43 AM

Isn't it actually weird that it doesn't get any sort of durability quirks?

It suffers from big ST syndrome like the Mad Dog but doesn't get anything to help offset its poor geometry.

#11 FupDup

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:44 AM

View PostN a p e s, on 03 April 2019 - 10:43 AM, said:

Isn't it actually weird that it doesn't get any sort of durability quirks?

It suffers from big ST syndrome like the Mad Dog but doesn't get anything to help offset its poor geometry.

Clan Battlemech with a bunch of energy hardpoints, that's why. PGI still thinks laser vomit is the end-all-be-all meta.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 10:50 AM

View PostFupDup, on 03 April 2019 - 10:44 AM, said:

Clan Battlemech with a bunch of energy hardpoints, that's why. PGI still thinks laser vomit is the end-all-be-all meta.


Oh PGI... I mean, ya, laser vomit is still pretty good but almost all of the energy hardpoints on the Hellfire are in the arms making hill peeking pretty inefficient. I suppose it could side peek but then its only using half of its firepower.

Come on PGI, give it some armor quirks!

#13 WrathOfDeadguy

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:30 PM

I picked one up while they were on sale.

I've only run it a couple times so far, but it's been pretty good. Hitboxes may be crap, but the hardpoints are solid and having MASC with a cool-running brawl alpha is very fun.

Edited by WrathOfDeadguy, 03 April 2019 - 01:32 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:47 PM

Hellfire is nice alternative 60 tonner compare to the Mad Dog, but it heavily rely on it masc to not be ripped apart most of the time. But it nice that I don't be using ff and or endo most of the time since I can use all the spare tonnage and slots and go full dhs on it and just keep a decent xl on it.

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 01:48 PM

View PostN a p e s, on 03 April 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

All about the MASC, it definitely sets it apart from the other mechs in the same class. Not sure I agree with it being tonnage starved though since it gets 30.5 tons (assuming FF and Endo) of pod space with full armor, an XL280 (for 75.6 kph) and MASC. Thats kind of up to preferences in relation to available hard points, so it depends how you like to build your mechs.

Eh, I don't really have a buildup of clan engines so I've stuck with the default XL300 (81 kph default, 101.something kph in sprint).

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 07:27 PM

View PostWrathOfDeadguy, on 03 April 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

I picked one up while they were on sale.

I've only run it a couple times so far, but it's been pretty good. Hitboxes may be crap, but the hardpoints are solid and having MASC with a cool-running brawl alpha is very fun.


Hmmm, trading artemis on the SRMs for small pulse lasers... very interesting will have to give that build a go.

View PostAthom83, on 03 April 2019 - 01:48 PM, said:

Eh, I don't really have a buildup of clan engines so I've stuck with the default XL300 (81 kph default, 101.something kph in sprint).


Ya, that will get in the way and it does take up an extra 1.5 tons versus the XL280;

#17 CUTE PUPPY LUV

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Posted 03 April 2019 - 08:39 PM

I like the appearance like a body builder. But if it's really squishy, maybe I will wait till PGI gives it quirk.

#18 Variant1

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Posted 04 April 2019 - 12:49 PM

hellfire should be called hotfire because it runs real hot. all mechs should be nerfed sot hey are as hot as hellfire Posted Image





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