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[Felicitatem Parco]

This webpage has a list of Mechs available by BattleTech year 3050, which is year 2013 by our count.

Right now it's late December, 3048, and the Clans invade The Periphery this coming summer in August (so I've heard from a little bee), 3049. However, the Can invasion of the Draconis Combine and the Inner Sphere, in general, begins in 3050...

((EDIT: I changed my link to that provided by Stormwolf))

Edited by Prosperity Park, 03 January 2012 - 01:29 PM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Uhm..that's just a list of the Mechs included in the 3050 TRO, not all the Mechs that existed in 3050.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I know, but I doubt we'll be seeing too many Mechs that aren't spotlighted on the Technical Readouts.

[Rhinehart]

I think he meant to point out that mechs from the pre-3050 TROs would still be commonly available too, especially in the DC where comstar gave the DCMS a number of lostech designs during the last war. Specifically from tech readouts 3025 and 2750.

[Skygrunt]

some just aren't mentioned like the devastator.

[Kristov Kerensky]

TROs don't include ALL Mechs up to their date, just the new Mechs or the updates to or variants of older Mechs.

Need to look at the 2750, 3025, 3039 TROs for more Mechs that would be availible, the 3050 stuff should be around when MWO releases, some of it more expensive due to them being 'new' releases or especially rare and/or recently recovered LosTech.

[Stormwolf]

Click the link below my sig, it has a actual list.

[Dlardrageth]

Still only moderately useful as long as we don't get any info from PGI if all stock/canon Mechs will have any role at all in game, except perhaps as chassis' waiting to be modified. Even if they do, doesn't necessarily mean we'd have access to even half those. I, for once, don't expect them to bother to dig out all the StarLeague era Mechs that later on turned mostly LosTech.

[GaussDragon]

I have a question for you TRO buffs if you'll be so kind as to enlighten me. I was told that the Nova Cat didn't appear until 3052, however it's from the 3060 TRO. Also, the Sunder is from the TRO 3058 Upgraded (if I've read Sarna annotations correctly). My first question is this; if a mech is from a given TRO of XXXX year, is that when it's supposed to have initially appeared? Or, is it sort of a guideline? I know the Sunder didn't come later because it was based off captured Thors and Lokis. So, when do the Sunder and Nova Cat make their first appearances respectively?

Edited by GaussDragon, 31 December 2011 - 01:29 AM.

[Volume]

The 3049 in the sig is great.
www.mektek.net/forums/topic/188210-3048-mech-list-info/

Here's one from 3048.

GaussDragon, on 31 December 2011 - 01:26 AM, said:

I have a question for you TRO buffs if you'll be so kind as to enlighten me. I was told that the Nova Cat didn't appear until 3052, however it's from the 3060 TRO. Also, the Sunder is from the TRO 3058 Upgraded (if I've read Sarna annotations correctly). My first question is this; if a mech is from a given TRO of XXXX year, is that when it's supposed to have initially appeared? Or, is it sort of a guideline? I know the Sunder didn't come later because it was based off captured Thors and Lokis. So, when do the Sunder and Nova Cat make their first appearances respectively?

I'll admit I'm far from a TRO buff, but everywhere I've looked (Sarna, Enclopedia Battletech, Solaris7, Battletech.com, etc.) all show the Sunder as first introduced in the 3058 TRO, with no actualy paragraphs of fluff regarding origin date.

I even checked the list of inner sphere Omni's and I know it's not fully complete, but it has nothing else coming before TRO 3058 (was hoping I'd find another Assault Omni that was introduced before 3058, which would mean that the Sunder would have had to been produced prior, being the first Omni Assault 'Mech from the IS.

Can't find anything, sorry. Seems like it's nonspecific.

[Dlardrageth]

I usually used to crosscheck with the officially published CBT Mech sheets. Those extra booklets normally had a small annotation to the origin date of the Mech in question. Of course, that could mean either when it started getting into production, entering field test stage or even delivery to first units. One of the three, which one though, was AFAIR never specified except in rare cases in the fluff text in TROs.

[Xake]

Volume, on 31 December 2011 - 02:52 AM, said:

The 3049 in the sig is great.
www.mektek.net/forums/topic/188210-3048-mech-list-info/

Here's one from 3048.


I'll admit I'm far from a TRO buff, but everywhere I've looked (Sarna, Enclopedia Battletech, Solaris7, Battletech.com, etc.) all show the Sunder as first introduced in the 3058 TRO, with no actualy paragraphs of fluff regarding origin date.

I even checked the list of inner sphere Omni's and I know it's not fully complete, but it has nothing else coming before TRO 3058 (was hoping I'd find another Assault Omni that was introduced before 3058, which would mean that the Sunder would have had to been produced prior, being the first Omni Assault 'Mech from the IS.

Can't find anything, sorry. Seems like it's nonspecific.

Now is it inconceivable to think that some prototypes would be field tested for several years before being mass produced and marketed?

[AdamBaines]

GaussDragon, on 31 December 2011 - 01:26 AM, said:

I have a question for you TRO buffs if you'll be so kind as to enlighten me. I was told that the Nova Cat didn't appear until 3052, however it's from the 3060 TRO. Also, the Sunder is from the TRO 3058 Upgraded (if I've read Sarna annotations correctly). My first question is this; if a mech is from a given TRO of XXXX year, is that when it's supposed to have initially appeared? Or, is it sort of a guideline? I know the Sunder didn't come later because it was based off captured Thors and Lokis. So, when do the Sunder and Nova Cat make their first appearances respectively?

Basically if you have TRO 3039, it will include any new mechs since the last TRO. Two examples of this are the Wolfhound (introduced in 3028) and the Hatamoto-Chi (first seen in action on 3039). So they came after the 3025 TRO and are included. You will also see updates to certian chasis in the TRO because of new tech and etc. IE the ASN-21 Assassin. Th Assassin is an old mech but its a new upgrade or variant.

Also an example of this would be any clan mechs. The classic designs were all released in the 3050 TRO, but that does not measn they were created in 3050. Its the first introduction to clan mechs so it includes all the general ones that were seen in the initial Invation. All were made prior (significanlty prior to) to 3050. Most of the time the description in the TRO will tell you when it was introduced.

Hope that answered your question :-)

[Stormwolf]

GaussDragon, on 31 December 2011 - 01:26 AM, said:

I have a question for you TRO buffs if you'll be so kind as to enlighten me. I was told that the Nova Cat didn't appear until 3052, however it's from the 3060 TRO. Also, the Sunder is from the TRO 3058 Upgraded (if I've read Sarna annotations correctly). My first question is this; if a mech is from a given TRO of XXXX year, is that when it's supposed to have initially appeared? Or, is it sort of a guideline? I know the Sunder didn't come later because it was based off captured Thors and Lokis. So, when do the Sunder and Nova Cat make their first appearances respectively?

3059 is the year the Nova Cat went into production, the Sunder in 3056.
Look it up here:
http://www.masteruni....info/Unit/2306
http://www.masteruni....info/Unit/3123

[Kristov Kerensky]

GaussDragon, the TROs are reports of all KNOWN 'new' equipment being fielded by the various forces at the time of the report. New simply means, it wasn't there the LAST time a report was issued, could be a totally new chassis with new tech, could be an old chassis rediscovered and made operational or just a new variant that wasn't seen at the time of the previous report. Or..sometimes..it's something that's been around, was known about, but never mentioned in a previous report..don't ask..it's BTech..

The Nova Cat was created after the defeat of the Clans at Tukayyid, first seen in action in 3071 but mentioned in ComStar reports in 3060, so 3059 is a good time for it's first production runs. The 10+ year difference in when it's first reported on and it's first sighting in combat..again..it's BTech, don't ask. The Sunder was put into production around 3056, hard to be exact because the fluff mentions that the original model had problems with catastrophic actuator failure, could have started early production in 3055 and finally gotten the problems sorted out for full production in 3056..or some of the first models off the line are something you want to avoid(if you had a GM like I did..you never wanted first production runs..they were the ones that had any issues mentioned in the fluff).

[GaussDragon]

Thanks everyone. I'm kind of disappointed I'm going to have to wait 6 and 9 years for the Sunder and Nova Cat respectively

[pbiggz]

http://www.mektek.ne...mech-list-info/
mektek did this before this website even existed.

bask in its infinite majesty.

[dal10]

the king crab should be in this. i really just want to see a hunchback run into one. it may have 1 ac-20 but the king crab has 2. one salvo and bye-bye hunchback

[Dlardrageth]

pbiggz, on 31 December 2011 - 11:45 AM, said:

http://www.mektek.ne...mech-list-info/
mektek did this before this website even existed.

bask in its infinite majesty.

Doesn't help much with the LosTech/availability issue though. What good does it if on paper/in theory you could get an original EXT-4D Exterminator e.g., but in practice that was not easy even when you were member of the ComGuards? Thus you'd more likely get an EXT-4A variant. Which is sort of a different Mech altogether. The production date by itself is only half the matter. Or do you really expect PGI to unleash the original EXT-4D including...

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[...]a special Null Signature System, heat baffles and, in some cases, a Chameleon Light Polarization Shield[...]

...into the game for free access? I don't think so.

[Stormwolf]

pbiggz, on 31 December 2011 - 11:45 AM, said:

http://www.mektek.ne...mech-list-info/
mektek did this before this website even existed.

bask in its infinite majesty.

That list doesn't split the SL era mechs for Comstar like i did, it might give people the wrong idea on what's available.