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[Rick T Dangerous]

LordNothing, on 29 July 2019 - 09:52 PM, said:

and more maps, maps that look like locations in the inner sphere, not canada.

Canada has way better graphics.

[LordNothing]

Rick T Dangerous, on 01 August 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

Canada has way better graphics.

except there is no great house that is canadian. maybe ghost bears.

[Willard Phule]

LordNothing, on 01 August 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

except there is no great house that is canadian. maybe ghost bears.

Clan Wolverine. Later became the "Minnesota Tribe." About as close as you're gonna get.

[Curccu]

Thorqemada, on 29 July 2019 - 07:43 AM, said:

Well, i dont care where it is ranked.

It had have a good core game that engaged me some years

The additions made slowly drove me more and more away.
After voting it was no more possible to evade modes you do not like and build up excitement in modes you like.
My playing motivation tanked to the very Bottom since then.

Up and into 2015 i played ~20.000 Matches (including Beta)
In the years after i played ~2.000 Matches

(a few thousand matches never were registered - my best guess is that i am between 23500 and 25000 matches)

If MWO closes door i will conclude i had my moneys worth in playtime and hope for a better one bcs the things that demotivate me, which excludes the core game, will not change for the better in this MWO life.

This is in my top3 most played games ever with CS and WoW.
Am I happy about loads of decisions that PGI made? No but I have still enjoyed the game enough to keep playing.
I have played this game actively almost without brakes for 7 Years.

[MTier Slayed Up]

I'd hardly call this a top notch fps shooter much less refined. It's in a unique category to be sure but MWO did nothing to revolutionize the FPS genre or really breathe any life into the franchise. PGI took a beloved franchise and dropped the ball on it numerous times over during its life to where we only have the most dedicated players remaining.

I can safely assume that MW5 will not be much different.

[ShiverMeRivets]

DrtyDshSoap, on 02 August 2019 - 08:43 AM, said:

I'd hardly call this a top notch fps shooter much less refined. It's in a unique category to be sure but MWO did nothing to revolutionize the FPS genre or really breathe any life into the franchise. PGI took a beloved franchise and dropped the ball on it numerous times over during its life to where we only have the most dedicated players remaining.

Then what are you doing here? Don’t you have a better F2P FPS game to play?

[Xetelian]

Thorqemada, on 29 July 2019 - 07:43 AM, said:

Well, i dont care where it is ranked.

It had have a good core game that engaged me some years

The additions made slowly drove me more and more away.
After voting it was no more possible to evade modes you do not like and build up excitement in modes you like.
My playing motivation tanked to the very Bottom since then.

Up and into 2015 i played ~20.000 Matches (including Beta)
In the years after i played ~2.000 Matches

(a few thousand matches never were registered - my best guess is that i am between 23500 and 25000 matches)

If MWO closes door i will conclude i had my moneys worth in playtime and hope for a better one bcs the things that demotivate me, which excludes the core game, will not change for the better in this MWO life.

I have 4000+ hours played since steam started tracking when I installed through steam. I have a total of over 10,000 matches logged since MWO tracked matches, between archived and now.

In the past it was "I think I'll drop 20$ on MWO and get a hero/mechpack" now I haven't spent money on MWO in a long while and think "I think I'll drop 20$ in my steam wallet this month and hold it till a holiday sale".

This game hasn't been worth putting money in since before the engine DeSync and absolutely not since after it.

The fact that System shock 1 or 2 isn't on there is sad. Bioshock is kind of an homage to it, I guess, but I suspect someone was dropping acid before they made that list.

Edited by Xetelian, 03 August 2019 - 12:55 AM.

[Mystere]

ShiverMeRivets, on 03 August 2019 - 12:33 AM, said:

Then what are you doing here? Don’t you have a better F2P FPS game to play?

Sometimes one needs variety and will slum it.

Edited by Mystere, 03 August 2019 - 03:43 AM.

[Alienized]

ShiverMeRivets, on 01 August 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:

I too passed over this game for many years because of all the bitching I heard about it. Too bad I paid attention because when I finally tried it it turned out to be a great game. Just to put things in perspective, in the last 15 years I only played 3 other games besides MWO, for more than a couple of weeks. I am that picky about my games.

MWO community is indeed the saltiest ungrateful bunch of slobs that I have ever read on a forum. I am surprised that PGI tolerates such postings on their forums. It must have lost them many potential players like me who were turned off by the attitudes in the community.

i would call the community mainly "dedicated" as Battletech is so much older than PGI and alot of people have their own views.
PGI forgot about that and made alot of things worse than it had to be.

yes the community did its job of getting salty etc BUT PGI done everything to make them salty plenty of times.
goes hand in hand imho.

i been saying since ages that the community itself is a problem beein split and fed up majorly, especially the diehard lore fans and the comp scene (that want to throw the lore completely overboard which is awful) and both parties are only a smaller fraction of the playerbase but those most vocal.
there has been a middle ground, a common base once in a while but mainly one side or the other been too stubborn and raised hell.

[Prototelis]

I'm all for keeping lore; except for where it makes a bad game.

Seeing as how most of the technical lore is influenced by board game mechanics; most of those rules don't make for a very compelling action game.

[Sjorpha]

Well, it's the only multiplayer shooter I've ever really enjoyed, so subjectively it sure is one of the top shooters I've ever played.

It's a different thing if you're looking at it from the perspective of how much impact a game has had on the genre historically or whatever, which is very different from how good it is. Lot's of games have been influential by virtue of spearheading some new technology of gameplay mechanic, without being that good. Also are we judging based on how good those games were compared to other games back then, or by how well they have aged to still be awesome games to play today? Again very different conclusions.

[Racerxintegra2k]

PGI used that Epic money to get on that list. Only explanation.

[Mystere]

Alienized, on 03 August 2019 - 04:21 AM, said:

... and the comp scene (that want to throw the lore completely overboard which is awful) ...

There was Hawken. Why did they not just go there?

But then again maybe they did and found out there were not enough of them to sustain a game?

[East Indy]

I've taken a couple breaks, but I still play nearly every day.

Paying money stopped 3 years ago with the Unseen. Looking back, it was a combination of game mechanics overvaluing hardpoint count, followed a year later by the introduction of Skill Tree grinds and the removal of megaquirks. Why buy anything with real money? I've mostly stuck to what I've got, buying mastery in one go.

I think it's a combination of Russ and strat team being too clever by half on the business end, and the dev team just not able to cut the mustard. But, like I said, it's BattleTech and at its simplest it has that "30 seconds of fun," so I still play.

[JC Daxion]

Skoll, on 29 July 2019 - 08:48 AM, said:

We laughed about it six years ago and called it bull then. It's still bull today.

If you can name 25 better FPS games, why on earth on you on this forum? Who actually has time to bother with a game they don't enjoy? I'll take this game over fortnight, overwatch, CS, Battlefield, Call of duty or any number of so called Good Shooters.

[JediPanther]

JC Daxion, on 03 August 2019 - 07:27 AM, said:

If you can name 25 better FPS games, why on earth on you on this forum? Who actually has time to bother with a game they don't enjoy? I'll take this game over fortnight, overwatch, CS, Battlefield, Call of duty or any number of so called Good Shooters.

One reason I don't play those others is the die-and-respawn mechanic. I fail to see how dying seconds into a match only to respawn and do it again with maybe a few shots fired to be fun. Add in the p2w elements of better weapons most players probability have while you have default trash is just another reason I don't care for those games.

At least mwo lets you shoot and get some fun in wth its slower pace. Half the game's fun is just trying different load outs.

[Prototelis]

Mystere, on 03 August 2019 - 06:17 AM, said:

There was Hawken. Why did they not just go there?

But then again maybe they did and found out there were not enough of them to sustain a game?

Hawken had drastically different gameplay when compared to MWO.

One thing I appreciate about MWO is the sweet spot its in between long KMDD and lowered mobility.

The only time PGI made changes to this game related to comp was when they boosted ammo prior to 2018 worlds. Stock mechs don't carry much ammo.

Other than that; most have changes have been in an attempt to suit the lowest common denominator skill wise. Most of their changes wouldn't be needed if they had just hard invested in a more robust matchmaker.

Edited by Prototelis, 03 August 2019 - 05:42 PM.

[ShiverMeRivets]

East Indy, on 03 August 2019 - 06:39 AM, said:

I've taken a couple breaks, but I still play nearly every day.

Paying money stopped 3 years ago with the Unseen. Looking back, it was a combination of game mechanics overvaluing hardpoint count, followed a year later by the introduction of Skill Tree grinds and the removal of megaquirks. Why buy anything with real money? I've mostly stuck to what I've got, buying mastery in one go.

I think it's a combination of Russ and strat team being too clever by half on the business end, and the dev team just not able to cut the mustard. But, like I said, it's BattleTech and at its simplest it has that "30 seconds of fun," so I still play.

So basically you admit to enjoy a game almost every day for 3 years without giving a penny for it.
That is just bad form.
MWO does not have other sources of revenue like commercials or mining and selling your private data. If you freebie it for that long you have no right to complain. You obviously like the game inspite of your criticism of devs decisions - that is fine, but that is proof of a good game anyway.
Now buy something. Anything. Minimal MC would do. 3 years of freebies is way too much to be decent.

[Toothless]

ShiverMeRivets, on 04 August 2019 - 01:18 AM, said:

So basically you admit to enjoy a game almost every day for 3 years without giving a penny for it.
That is just bad form.

He says he stopped buying things three years ago. Meaning he did, before he decided to stop. He is, after all, a founder. So he already paid the going rate for a video game, from MWO's infancy.

Dunno if you are aware of this but a lot of people can just buy a game and then never pay anything more and play to their hearts content.

PGI very, very obviously stopped any form of serious development on the game a LONG time ago. Thats why its still an arena shooter with some LOL bad game modes. I stopped buying anything years ago too, because PGI are disingenuous and have remained committed to keeping the game minimally viable. Its laughable that you think him not supporting their actions is not "decent".

Edited by Toothless, 04 August 2019 - 03:52 AM.

[MTier Slayed Up]

ShiverMeRivets, on 03 August 2019 - 12:33 AM, said:

Then what are you doing here? Don’t you have a better F2P FPS game to play?

Triggermetimbers! Calm down. This is the best worst game I've played. I'll continue playing it and having fun with friends, but ignoring the blatant faults in this game is foolish.