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#1 Rebel Ace Fryslan

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:18 PM

I thought al knew, but talking about it in streams seemed to go blank.

Since 3 Months ago group drops became slow to drop in with same teams etc.
Wait times wen from 4 min to 40 with nothing, all servers selected

It worsen't quickly. because the mass of players/groups went down imo.
this is for EU prime time

Look at the rising line each day, that EU starting with NA joining.
https://steamcharts.com/app/342200#1m

When EU-player drop out the mass is at it's peak.
But this means we start low and no group drops are possible and we dont try it late in the evening.

What happens now is we syncdrop on a single location server.
To maybe play against each other or sometimes the same team.

The (tactical) qualit of solo drops was low, but has become lower and lower as such.
Solo players go for themselfs not the win or less experience.
Morale is dropping, trying to call is frustrating.
Even harrasment.

And nascar, always nascar.

The drop in player will also been partial by this practice.

For your information PGI.

Ps: Units and loyality also dont seem to matter as much,
If you drop, let;s try to play to win as a team.

#2 Alienized

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:26 PM

PGI is responsible for that after all but they ever cared? hell naw.

#3 Brizna

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 02:26 PM

Group and solo queues should be merged. MM just needs to make the match taking into account mostly group size, and fill the teams with smaller groups and solo players. But PGI doesn't care for trivial improvements like this.

Example:

1 Find two teams of similar skill and very close size (+/-1) (most of us are tier 1 so we are all the "skill")
2 Fill both teams with solo players and smaller teams of equal size.
3 Make "solo" teams with excess solo players.

Jackpot, functional group maker, less queue time and allows for groups to play.

#4 Spheroid

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 02:46 PM

group is lame, drop faction like a real man.

#5 Feral Clown

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 02:51 PM

View PostRebel Ace Fryslan, on 15 August 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

I thought al knew, but talking about it in streams seemed to go blank.

Since 3 Months ago group drops became slow to drop in with same teams etc.
Wait times wen from 4 min to 40 with nothing, all servers selected

It worsen't quickly. because the mass of players/groups went down imo.
this is for EU prime time

Look at the rising line each day, that EU starting with NA joining.
https://steamcharts.com/app/342200#1m

When EU-player drop out the mass is at it's peak.
But this means we start low and no group drops are possible and we dont try it late in the evening.

What happens now is we syncdrop on a single location server.
To maybe play against each other or sometimes the same team.

The (tactical) qualit of solo drops was low, but has become lower and lower as such.
Solo players go for themselfs not the win or less experience.
Morale is dropping, trying to call is frustrating.
Even harrasment.

And nascar, always nascar.

The drop in player will also been partial by this practice.

For your information PGI.

Ps: Units and loyality also dont seem to matter as much,
If you drop, let;s try to play to win as a team.


Yeah if you tried to call a match I was in I'd definitely object.

Leave the calling to people doing well and have strong understanding of the game.

#6 GeminiWolf

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 06:49 PM

Merge Group que with Quick Play? so you can bring the 12 man clubbing to Quick Play? no sir.

#7 Rattlehead NZ

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 07:42 AM

I came back after hearing the EPIC new's. I think it's been a few years since I played or it just feels like it's that long. The reason why I stopped is when my friend and I was spending twice as long or more waiting to join any game than actually playing it so we had to stop playing.

Probably the last PVP game i actually liked, but atlas if I cannot join a server then I won't be playing.

#8 General Solo

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 08:59 AM

Its all ready merged, when group players drop solo they merge
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#9 Monkey Lover

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 06:26 PM

What happens when you stop supporting the game.

#10 dario03

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 06:50 PM

I would just merge group and solo with some restrictions.
-So group limit of 5 or 6.
-MM should try to make games all group and all solo first.
-If it can't then merge but limit 1 group per side or limit total group players to max group size of 5-6.
-Also require about equal numbers and rating (better rating system would be a big help) for groups per team. So if one team has a group with 4 players then the other should have a group of 4 with about equal rating, or have 5 nearly as high ranked, or 3 higher ranked players.

I think 5 or 6 would be a good balance for group size limit. Lets you have a decent amount of friends playing on one side but not an insurmountable amount of stacking for a smaller group and solos to overcome.

Or maybe go with something like 2-3 man groups can play in solo or group and then group can stay unlimited.

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 06:51 AM

If PGI would provide information on the amount of teams and players searching, at least we would know if there is a game to be found.

My unit/group has mostly given up on group q. we had a 10 men about a week ago and searched for over an hour during EU primetime. nothing. We went to FW for a bit and found games. Group q seems to have gone byebye.

We shall try again at christmas or so...

#12 TinFoilHat

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 08:08 AM

Seeing as some players still choose to drop on their lowest-ping server and deselect the other two, maybe it’s time to ditch the regional server choice and put QP queues back in a single bucket so all solo players are in the same queue, all groups go into one queue, rather than having different pots to match up drops.

#13 Alloh

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 08:36 AM

check:
is pgi trying to kill units to end game?

https://mwomercs.com...ts-to-end-game/

Edited by Alloh, 22 August 2019 - 08:36 AM.


#14 BattleBunny

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 09:16 AM

View PostTinFoilHat, on 22 August 2019 - 08:08 AM, said:

Seeing as some players still choose to drop on their lowest-ping server and deselect the other two, maybe it’s time to ditch the regional server choice and put QP queues back in a single bucket so all solo players are in the same queue, all groups go into one queue, rather than having different pots to match up drops.


I seriously doubt players are still selecting only one server for group q searches, considering the searchtimes.

#15 Feral Clown

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Posted 22 August 2019 - 05:34 PM

View PostTinFoilHat, on 22 August 2019 - 08:08 AM, said:

Seeing as some players still choose to drop on their lowest-ping server and deselect the other two, maybe it’s time to ditch the regional server choice and put QP queues back in a single bucket so all solo players are in the same queue, all groups go into one queue, rather than having different pots to match up drops.


No.





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