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[Appogee]

Fact: The Ready Button does nothing.

It used to do something (accelerate the countdown to zero when all players pressed it) but the lobby was improved to automatically detect when all players were connected, forwarding to the end of the countdown.

PGI just never bothered to remove it. Because PGI take no pride in their product, and any amount of effort is too much.

Hypothesis: the side with the more people pressing Ready is actually the weaker side. Experienced players know the Ready Button does nothing, and don't bother to press it. Noobs think the Ready Button does something, and press it.

Edited by Appogee, 27 August 2019 - 02:25 AM.

[O L L O]

Brizna, on 27 August 2019 - 02:21 AM, said:

As long as we don't take it as hard rule but as an statistic guideline I concur it does imply at least a higher win rate.

But I dont click that button to win, I just click for fun.

[Bud Crue]

So this is what it has come to? A thread dedicated to the assertion that players use of the ready button correlates with w/l rate. We used to talk about balance. How to fix maps. What it would take to fix FP. Why on earth the devs made some change or another and how we as players would cope with it (or abuse it). How to bring a little more fun to crappier mechs and weapons and game mechanics. How to make Solaris more enticing. How to git gud. Even how to avoid or embrace NASCAR and why. Etc. But the ready button as a possible driver of better match results? Damn.

[Sjorpha]

Ready button based matchmaker when?

[Karl Streiger]

Sjorpha, on 27 August 2019 - 03:47 AM, said:

Ready button based matchmaker when?

In 90 days

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

press "ready" for +10 kph.
easily the best investment one can make in nascarwarrior-online

[Aidan Crenshaw]

sweet, sweet silly season...

[Mechteric]

I don't press pointless buttons, kinda like the close door button on elevators.

[Brizna]

O L L O, on 27 August 2019 - 03:37 AM, said:

But I dont click that button to win, I just click for fun.

That still means you are there and not watching teletubbies videos or whatever it is some people do while waiting for the game to start, THAT leads to not being afk and wins /THREAD OVER

[justcallme A S H]

I've never used the ready button.

My WLR is extremely high.

Go figure.

[Kubernetes]

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[Daggett]

GuardDogg, on 26 August 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Oh...Have to write for grade 6 level.

For example: When a team has the most "Ready" lit up before the drop, is going to win. They have more energy mindfully. Other team doesn't care. Just letting people know of this phenomenon. :-)

I tell you a secret: A player can have all the motivation and energy in the world, this does nothing when he plays like a potato.
Good positioning and being able to hit the enemy repeatedly in the right spots with builds that can kill will win matches. Pressing the ready button will not magically transform the newbs and potatoes into decent players or a Narc-Raven not gifted with heavy lurm support by the MM into a killing machine.

GuardDogg, on 26 August 2019 - 05:21 PM, said:

It is an observation, and I am not the only one who takes notice. Observe, have fun. ;-) Most of the time it is true about a team. In QP only.

Take notes, not notice.
Such kind of observation is only relevant if you write down the data from at least 100 matches. Streaks mean nothing and your memory tends to fool you. Averages from big enough datasets are what you need if you want to prove a point.

Edited by Daggett, 29 August 2019 - 05:05 AM.

[ShiverMeRivets]

The “Ready” button is not about functionality - it is about making a statement.

PGI are secretly collecting your “Ready” button statistics and selling them to Epic games.
Also, the world is flat and we are being sedated by chemtrails.

[Xiphias]

GuardDogg, on 26 August 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

That "Ready", button. Many do not like it. Some say it is a waste. Some do not care. Some are okay with it. Of all the years it been there. On that top right hand corner. It says a lot about your team. It will show how your team will perform, even before the drop. Those who do not press ready, do not care, waiting for the timer to reach zero, and just do what ever. From those who press the button, are ready to go, and give it all they got. Now, some are away from the keyboard (getting a coffee, phone all of a sudden, or personal (kids, family, or something happened), or that MWO crashed. Do not get to press that "Ready" button. Majority of the time, everyone is at their monitors. If you watch one side that has more "Ready" pressed have more potential, have a better chance of winning the round. More organized. Now, if you have a team, that most do not press "Ready", and a disco. Is a easy lose. This phenomenon happens most of the time. But you will get lucky, if one side that doesn't press ready, wins. Go observe.

GuardDogg, on 26 August 2019 - 01:42 PM, said:

Oh...Have to write for grade 6 level.

I don't know if English is your first language or not, but your writing (in this post and others) is consistently poor. You have both spelling and grammatical errors, blocks of text with no formatting (hard to read), and generally incoherent thoughts that jump around without a cohesive flow. Your starting post is not clear or well written, it's a rambling stream of consciousness that could (and should) have been summarized as you did in your second post.

Little if any of the extra material in the OP is necessary and only obscures your point. Good writing should be clear and concise, your OP is neither. While it is possible to understand your point, your writing makes it significantly more difficult to read/follow than it needs to be. You don't need to write for a 6th grade level, you need to write less poorly

I don't mean to be insulting, but if you're going to be condescending to people about being able to understand what you've written, then you'd better make sure that your writing is good first.

Back on topic:

From an intuitive standpoint, I agree with your point. I tend to think my odds are better if more of my team readies up. However, I'm not convinced that this is a real phenomena and not just my own confirmation bias. Short of actually tracking this in my matches and correlating the data this is all just speculation.

The thread overall is fairly pointless because it's just an observation you've made that may or may not be true. It doesn't really do any good for anyone. A much better topic would be if you went out and recorded/screen capped 100+ consecutive matches and then presented the resulting correlation between winning and having more players readied up on your team. Don't tell people to "observe", put in the legwork yourself. Go do that and then you'll have something worth starting a thread about.

[R Valentine]

LUL, no. The ready button is a lie. So is the OP.

[GuardDogg]

Xiphias, on 28 August 2019 - 06:22 AM, said:

I don't know if English is your first language or not, but your writing (in this post and others) is consistently poor. You have both spelling and grammatical errors, blocks of text with no formatting (hard to read), and generally incoherent thoughts that jump around without a cohesive flow. Your starting post is not clear or well written, it's a rambling stream of consciousness that could (and should) have been summarized as you did in your second post.

Little if any of the extra material in the OP is necessary and only obscures your point. Good writing should be clear and concise, your OP is neither. While it is possible to understand your point, your writing makes it significantly more difficult to read/follow than it needs to be. You don't need to write for a 6th grade level, you need to write less poorly

I don't mean to be insulting, but if you're going to be condescending to people about being able to understand what you've written, then you'd better make sure that your writing is good first.

Back on topic:

From an intuitive standpoint, I agree with your point. I tend to think my odds are better if more of my team readies up. However, I'm not convinced that this is a real phenomena and not just my own confirmation bias. Short of actually tracking this in my matches and correlating the data this is all just speculation.

The thread overall is fairly pointless because it's just an observation you've made that may or may not be true. It doesn't really do any good for anyone. A much better topic would be if you went out and recorded/screen capped 100+ consecutive matches and then presented the resulting correlation between winning and having more players readied up on your team. Don't tell people to "observe", put in the legwork yourself. Go do that and then you'll have something worth starting a thread about.

Kiran Yagami, on 28 August 2019 - 06:38 AM, said:

LUL, no. The ready button is a lie. So is the OP.

Kubernetes, on 27 August 2019 - 02:53 PM, said:

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Wondering where did everyone get their ignorance? The anger in MWO. What is wrong with you guys? Like everyone has personal issues, and letting some of it out in here.

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[Feral Clown]

GuardDogg, on 28 August 2019 - 03:48 PM, said:

Wondering where did everyone get their ignorance? The anger in MWO. What is wrong with you guys? Like everyone has personal issues, and letting some of it out in here.

Think a good deal of it comes from the interwebs being impersonal, and that people don't like silly assertions or judgements that are not only meritless but cross over into really absurd territory.

[GuardDogg]

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[GuardDogg]

Feral Clown, on 28 August 2019 - 04:49 PM, said:

Pretty original....

You can likely expect the same kind of responses to the stupid things you post.

You are not really qualified to do anything more than ask questions on what you can be doing better.

Pretty stupid hey? Just make a post of something. And this is one response of many. If you think the Main topic is stupid, their is no need to reply stupid angry stuff. We are all here to get along, not argue.

Edited by GuardDogg, 28 August 2019 - 04:57 PM.

[Feral Clown]

GuardDogg, on 28 August 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:

Pretty stupid hey? Just make a post of something. And this is one response of many. If you think the Main topic is stupid, their is no need to reply stupid angry stuff. We are all here to get along, not argue.

It's the internet. If you think that we are all here to get along and it should be all rainbows and sunshine, there is something really, really wrong with you.

And your topic should have never been posted in the first place, and you got the exact answers one should expect.