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[BoydofZINJ]

How difficult do you think a campaign will be if you

Only used Salvage from drops and Quest Reward items. In other words, you can not purchase ANYTHING. You can still repair, but if you lose an AC/20 then you can not buy a new one - you have to pick it up from salvage (or pick it up from a previous mission as salvage).

I am playing with a 3 man group and we are trying a "Salvage and Quest Reward" only play thru.

Is it still possible to get "HERO" mechs from either quests or salvage?

Is it possible to get most or all or some LOSTECH from salvage?

Half ton ammo seems like a pain. Have only seen half ton machine gun ammo so far. Are there any mechs that have half ton AC or SRM or LRM ammo ? Is there any items or thing that I will be missing out on?


So far the biggest problem are MECHs. Even if we take out the half ton ammo issue out of the equation. Not upgrading to higher ton mechs seems like a big problem. We are not getting enough salvage points to grab any of the mediums yet. We found a few missions that gave us enough to grab a 35 ton panther.

[Azhrael]

I always play SP games like that. The " Market option " ( if the game allows ) is there only for Campaign finishing screw ups in my personal playstyle.

If, say, i lost half my lance before a 400 tons campaign mission, well, i would go and PLAY THE GAME in order to replenish my forces.

STILL, even finishing this game with that " personal rule " enforced, i ended the campaign with more than a dozen assaults, and absurd amounts of C-Bills that i have no use for.

Im afraid this will be so even if i had bought every thing i liked on every planet.

And that, lastly, if the worst of the list of ****** things about this game. Replayability? yeah, right.

Why would i keep playing? whats there to gain or grow? Why would i start a new play?

At this point, i just rather freed up 50 Gbs, and keep playing MW5 "dinamic campaign" on MWO.

At least i can use MWO gains for something, someday.

[Button man]

There are different ways to play this game that just got released and if that does not suit you remember this game JUST got released. Certain people seem to have the idea that MWO now is great and seem to forget how it was when first released or the growing pains it has had in the intervening years..and then they take that attitude and apply it to a game JUST released. Some people have short memories i guess

[Unleashed3k]

BoydofZINJ, on 18 December 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

How difficult do you think a campaign will be if you

Only used Salvage from drops and Quest Reward items. In other words, you can not purchase ANYTHING. You can still repair, but if you lose an AC/20 then you can not buy a new one - you have to pick it up from salvage (or pick it up from a previous mission as salvage).

I am playing with a 3 man group and we are trying a "Salvage and Quest Reward" only play thru.

Is it still possible to get "HERO" mechs from either quests or salvage?

Is it possible to get most or all or some LOSTECH from salvage?

Half ton ammo seems like a pain. Have only seen half ton machine gun ammo so far. Are there any mechs that have half ton AC or SRM or LRM ammo ? Is there any items or thing that I will be missing out on?


So far the biggest problem are MECHs. Even if we take out the half ton ammo issue out of the equation. Not upgrading to higher ton mechs seems like a big problem. We are not getting enough salvage points to grab any of the mediums yet. We found a few missions that gave us enough to grab a 35 ton panther.

You won't get any lostech from salvage, only a tiny bit from Questrewards, that's all.
Ended the campaign and never saw a Hero in battle.

And around Merclevel 8-9, you won't have enough salvage shares to get a heavy, but lvl 70 difficult without them, I dunno if it is possible to win with 3 other humans, as the AI will be more aggressive and it much more aims for "weakspots" than it would do playing as solo-warrior.

We are doing a 2 player campaign currently and above dif 60 you feel a big impact on how the enemy AI improves.

[BoydofZINJ]

Unleashed3k, on 19 December 2019 - 07:53 AM, said:

You won't get any lostech from salvage, only a tiny bit from Questrewards, that's all.
Ended the campaign and never saw a Hero in battle.

And around Merclevel 8-9, you won't have enough salvage shares to get a heavy, but lvl 70 difficult without them, I dunno if it is possible to win with 3 other humans, as the AI will be more aggressive and it much more aims for "weakspots" than it would do playing as solo-warrior.

We are doing a 2 player campaign currently and above dif 60 you feel a big impact on how the enemy AI improves.

We hit the wall early on. Rep 6 thru 8 is tough. Not enough salvage to get most mediums, and salvage on crappy lights with arm mounted weapons means we keep losing them. We also tried to stay neutral to good on every faction. Then we made a decision and went full Davion and Marik. Once we did that, we started seeing a few extra drops of Hunchback G (The ac20 version) and that made a difference. We now got the ac 5 version of the Shadowhawk and just got the ac10 version of the Orion.

However, we noticed we have very few SRM 4s and no HALF TON ammo of anything (except we get half ton machine gun ammo). AC 2 ammo seems rare, and arm mounted weapons keep getting destroyed its hard to keep stock of AC10s.

I will agree the difficulty 60+ missions makes it feel like a real game. It is almost a shame we dont see difficulty AI pilots early on. I would not mind a level 20 mission where it has a few veteran pilots on lights dashing around and taking cover when we fire LRMs at them.

So far we have not seen ANY LOS Tech items for salvage. No hero mechs for salvage. Likewise, as mentioned above, no half ton ammo (except for half to machine gun ammo) Some equipment seems to be rarer than others:
SRM 4
(I have seen a million SRM 2 and a couple of SRM 6... but the 4s....)
LRM 15s.... (we are now seeing a few catapults so this will probably change soon enough)

[Xaat Xuun]

when I reached year 3050 something, I had a billion AC2 in salvage, now I'm in the 60's and don't see much AC2

only half ammo I've recall from salvage, was same as you, Machine guns, but I think I got some for AC5, but really don't remember , I don't think I ever bought AC5 half ammo, but I have some

gotta keep working on rep to increase that amount of negotiation points earlier I had to stay to the outside of the conflict zones to just fight pirates, I wasn't a fan fighting against a house i had good rep for to gain rep with a newer house , every now and then I dash up north to Rasalhague territory then head south back to Steiner/Marik space, back to the grind.
them 90+ difficulty missions can become frustrating, depending how your AI's are playing, and I still don't have the right mechs to really hang out up north

the Highend rewards mission will gain you a chance of new mech, and nice weapons, I have not yet seen a Hero in a highend reward mission or in salvage , I'm guessing so fer only way to gain a Hero would be market, now just because I haven't seen one in a Highend mission reward, doesn't mean it's not possible, just means I haven't seen one yet

only seen the tier5 weapons in market, not as a highend mission reward, of course at the time I had no c-bills to purchase and now That I do, haven't seen one again, kinda like the Nightstar.

[BoydofZINJ]

Xaat Xuun, on 22 December 2019 - 11:48 PM, said:

only half ammo I've recall from salvage, was same as you, Machine guns, but I think I got some for AC5, but really don't remember , I don't think I ever bought AC5 half ammo, but I have some
... of course at the time I had no c-bills to purchase ...

We encountered a bug where mechs that we salvage that goes straight to storage will randomly make their equipment into something else. We noticed we picked up some LRM 5 ST when the SRM 2 changed to it off an Assassin that we grabbed that went straight to storage. We re-loaded and it worked normal, but we noticed we had a few random los tech from weirdness like that. If we notice what did it, we will re-load. Otherwise, we sell the los tech. However, we noticed we were short on SRM 4s and not sure if we were not seeing much or they were randomly being converted to random salvage.

Oddly, not using cbills to buy anything means we are always rich on cbills and we dont even try to go for cbills ever. Salvage takes 100% priority then repairs and then cbills.