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#1 Johny Rocket

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 12:57 PM

Disco, rejoin as fast as you can, still have a decent match then see at the end "No Bonus For ReEntering After 2 Minutes" and then try to launch another match and get the penalty timer.

Sorry PGI but that is some BS right there.

#2 martian

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 12:59 PM

View PostJohny Rocket, on 16 January 2020 - 12:57 PM, said:

Disco, rejoin as fast as you can, still have a decent match then see at the end "No Bonus For ReEntering After 2 Minutes" and then try to launch another match and get the penalty timer.

Sorry PGI but that is some BS right there.

If I might suggest something, invest into a solid-state drive (SSD). It really helps.

EDIT:
These days SSDs are not as expensive as they used to be.

Edited by martian, 16 January 2020 - 01:01 PM.


#3 Johny Rocket

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 01:18 PM

I have a hybrid drive

#4 Nightbird

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 01:26 PM

View PostJohny Rocket, on 16 January 2020 - 01:18 PM, said:

I have a hybrid drive


Which is not an SSD, as it performs pretty much equal to an HDD for games.

#5 Kodyn

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 01:27 PM

Had this happen the other day to two entire teams. I think the entire server DC'd, because my buddy was in another match and both teams in both matches all had it happen, and despite being the 2nd or 3rd person back in, i still got the penalty as well. I imagine no one except maybe those first couple guys got anything out of that match.

I do have MWO on an SSD btw.

#6 Johny Rocket

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:07 PM

View PostNightbird, on 16 January 2020 - 01:26 PM, said:

Which is not an SSD, as it performs pretty much equal to an HDD for games.

I went pure SSD and it was shot in less than a year and a half, the number of read writes you get from them is garbage.

#7 Nightbird

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:16 PM

View PostJohny Rocket, on 16 January 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

I went pure SSD and it was shot in less than a year and a half, the number of read writes you get from them is garbage.


You must have bought garbage then, since most SSDs will not wear out in 20 years of normal usage.

#8 B L O O D W I T C H

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:19 PM

I have a m2 960 evo directly mounted on my motherboard. Got the penalty yesterday after the game crashed. Was kinda pissed too.

#9 Leone

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:21 PM

You wanna leave roughly, like, 25% of your SSD drive free, otherwise it negatively affects the longevity of your drive. Coulda been what happened.

~Leone.

#10 Nightbird

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:25 PM

View PostB L O O D W I T C H, on 16 January 2020 - 02:19 PM, said:

I have a m2 960 evo directly mounted on my motherboard. Got the penalty yesterday after the game crashed. Was kinda pissed too.


That's strange, I have an m2 SSD and I can exit the match, reboot the computer, launch the game, and be in the match in less than 60 seconds...

Edited by Nightbird, 16 January 2020 - 02:26 PM.


#11 Johny Rocket

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:31 PM

Also my Disco had nothing to do with my drive.

#12 Kodyn

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:36 PM

View PostNightbird, on 16 January 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:


That's strange, I have an m2 SSD and I can exit the match, reboot the computer, launch the game, and be in the match in less than 60 seconds...


For me the hangup was match loading. I could restart PC and restart the game nearly as quickly as you, but MWO itself loads pretty slow and then the match is the worst. Other games are no issue. I imagine my rig is much less beefy however. What's weird is I'm nearly always the first or 2nd player loaded in matches.

#13 Aidan Crenshaw

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 10:35 PM

From what I've experienced, the biggest load-time inflator is that splash screen with current events and so forth.

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 11:12 PM

View Postmartian, on 16 January 2020 - 12:59 PM, said:

If I might suggest something, invest into a solid-state drive (SSD). It really helps.

EDIT:
These days SSDs are not as expensive as they used to be.

RAM's cheap these days, invest in more than 32GB and get ramdrive software, it helps more than any NVMe drive

#15 B L O O D W I T C H

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 04:23 AM

View PostNightbird, on 16 January 2020 - 02:25 PM, said:


That's strange, I have an m2 SSD and I can exit the match, reboot the computer, launch the game, and be in the match in less than 60 seconds...


Rebooting takes me 15 seconds or so. The Problem is the mechlab taking forever to let me proceed. I got 150ish mechs on this account and it sometimes takes more than a minute until that obligatory event page pops up.

Actually just tried.
Rebooting took me all in all 21 seconds, go away steam, go away razor.
Clicking MWO's launcher and play.
Mashing ESC cuz' stupid nvidia logo etc.
Hack in my password and then i had to wait another 49 seconds until mechlab was loading in.
Assuming it would still take some seconds to rejoin and load the map i'd say it's gotten be pretty darn close to 2 min.

*rant*
I mean, sorry that "MY" client closed but what more could i do?

Already running a stupid M.2 NVMe 1.2 SSD directly mounted on my stupid motherboard hogging 4 (FOUR!) PCIe 3.0 lanes at once to shovel more then 3 gigabytes per second. It already has a whole gigabyte memory cache and if that's somehow not enough, i still got 32 gigabytes more of 3200MHz DDR4 ram with 14 CL latency.

Call me stupid but the whole MWO installation is "only" 22 gigabyte.
My system can theoretically go through that in less than 7 seconds flat.
I can create a god darn copy of it in less than a minute.
WTF takes more than a minute AFTER i already loaded the game?!
Gotta be some weird compression and/or server sync going on.

WTF am i supposed to do? Is running end of the line consumer grade not enough? Do i need to run a raid config to dodge disconnect penalty? Do i need professional storage equipment?

Luckily, i don't give a crap about XP or Cbills anymore but that extremely stupid "YoU GotTa wAiT 7 sEcOnDs BeCuZ' u'Ve BeEn ToO SluUuUwW" is triggering the hell outta me.

No, i have NOT been too slow. It's your goddarn client which is too f'ing slow.

*/rant*

okay.. i'm better now. That felt good.

Edited by B L O O D W I T C H, 17 January 2020 - 05:25 AM.


#16 LordNothing

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 11:41 AM

if you cant get back into the game in 2 minutes dont even try. i have a pair of nvme ssds and i can barely make it back in time. pgi needs to add like a minute to the rejoin clock, or like do auto rejoin when the client detects a game in progress when you log in (and skip loading things like your entire inventory or the news screen).

also make sure you are in full window as full screen is known to cause crashes. that's likely half of the perceived dcs right there.

Edited by LordNothing, 17 January 2020 - 11:42 AM.


#17 martian

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 07:49 AM

View PostA Rabid Raccoon With A Shotgun, on 16 January 2020 - 11:12 PM, said:

RAM's cheap these days, invest in more than 32GB and get ramdrive software, it helps more than any NVMe drive

You might be right.

All I can say is that with the new SSD, the game loads much faster and and I have practically no disconnects.

#18 Y E O N N E

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 10:42 AM

View PostJohny Rocket, on 16 January 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

I went pure SSD and it was shot in less than a year and a half, the number of read writes you get from them is garbage.


Don't buy a garbage SSD, then.

I've been running one of my SSDs for 9 years and only now do I suspect it's on its way out because Windows keeps having inexplicable corruptions and that SSD is my boot drive. Laptop, which only has a 512 GB SSD, is still going strong after over a year and a half.

#19 VonBruinwald

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 11:30 AM

View PostY E O N N E, on 18 January 2020 - 10:42 AM, said:


Don't buy a garbage SSD, then.

I've been running one of my SSDs for 9 years and only now do I suspect it's on its way out because Windows keeps having inexplicable corruptions and that SSD is my boot drive. Laptop, which only has a 512 GB SSD, is still going strong after over a year and a half.


I got two of these bad boys in 2015.

As a primary OS I'm still wondering why it's not died.

Even trash can last.

Edited by VonBruinwald, 18 January 2020 - 11:30 AM.


#20 Y E O N N E

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Posted 18 January 2020 - 11:56 AM

IIRC, MLC is actually more durable than TLC, so that could explain it.

Really, though, it's the controller and the OS's ability to use it that matters the most.





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