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[Vxheous]

Hunchback IIc-A was the king of mediums for the longest time, untll the veagle came along. Its still a good mech to have of you dont have one

[CFC Conky]

Vxheous, on 09 April 2020 - 02:16 PM, said:

Hunchback IIc-A was the king of mediums for the longest time, untll the veagle came along. Its still a good mech to have of you dont have one

Yeah, it's a versatile energy boat.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[GhostWolf_Alpha]

My recomendations are the following with build recomendations that I find to be good for me.

Medium: Any Hunchback IIC, I use a IIC-B, with 4xLRM15s, 1xERLL and 1xTAG

Heavy: Rifleman IIC-2 or IIC-A, the IIC-2 with a 6xAC2s and the IIC-A 2xUAC10s and 4xERMLs. All around great amounts of Dakka with those two Rifleman IICs

Assault: Well I got the Highlander IIC-C, Warhammer IIC-A and Marauder IIC-A so i got an opinion on all three of them

• Highlander IIC-C: I recently got it and I only swapped 1 ton of LRM ammo for a cAP, other than that I like it as is.
  
• Warhammer IIC-A: 2xGauss, 3xHMLs because nothing says "Tell me how well does your 'Yeet Seat' work?" than blasting enemy internal structure with dual Gauss rifles
  
• Marauder IIC-A: 3xUAC5s, 4xERMLs its gives great amount of Dakka that isn't to be laughed at.

[Shampoo]

Test test

[LordNothing]

the iics tend to be better than the omnis, but several of them have glass cannon syndrome.

[letir]

LordNothing, on 14 April 2020 - 07:52 AM, said:

the iics tend to be better than the omnis, but several of them have glass cannon syndrome.

I thought it was called "Clan Syndrome".

[Valdarion Silarius]

LordNothing, on 14 April 2020 - 07:52 AM, said:

the iics tend to be better than the omnis, but several of them have glass cannon syndrome.

letir, on 14 April 2020 - 08:21 AM, said:

I thought it was called "Clan Syndrome".

IIC's in general outperform most omnimechs in their respective weight class and above. It's the PGI balancing overlords that decided to make them glass cannons in the name of balance™ in their own vision. Most of PGI's representations of the IIC class of mechs are not accurate at all to their original representations. The Warhammer IIC in Mechwarrior Online is a classic example.

The thing was really hard to kill in tabletop since it's engine was padded with DHS. Since this quirk was for some reason ignored by PGI, the balance overlords revisioned the mech into a glass cannon long range support mech. Problem with that is the Rifleman IIC does that job but better with more versatility. Brawling is done better by the Marauder IIC. When people complained about the Warhammer IIC's hit box problems and overall general squishiness, PGI did a band aide slap on with armor quirks, instead of giving it it's unique quirks from tabletop which would have helped it drastically. More mobility and torso yaw would have helped too.

[Dee Eight]

Same lack of common sense from balance overlords is why a Highlander IIC at 90 tons is more agile than the lighter Marauder IIC or Warhammer IIC and for that matter, the Kodiak also. The mech in the lore which was slower and less agile is instead in this game ictually the one that is most agile. Also the Kodiak 3 is 25% less agile than every other Kodiak variant because you know... hardpoint inflation required nerfing something else instead.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Arnold The Governator, on 14 April 2020 - 05:03 PM, said:

The thing was really hard to kill in tabletop since it's engine was padded with DHS. Since this quirk was for some reason ignored by PGI, the balance overlords revisioned the mech into a glass cannon long range support mech.

Where do you have that from? Sarna has no information on such a quirk or design perk.

[letir]

Dee Eight, on 14 April 2020 - 07:19 PM, said:

Same lack of common sense from balance overlords is why a Highlander IIC at 90 tons is more agile than the lighter Marauder IIC or Warhammer IIC and for that matter, the Kodiak also. The mech in the lore which was slower and less agile is instead in this game ictually the one that is most agile. Also the Kodiak 3 is 25% less agile than every other Kodiak variant because you know... hardpoint inflation required nerfing something else instead.

For the same reason why Cyclops, Banshee and Highlander are more agile than lighter Battlemaster, Awesome or Hatamoto-Chi. No reason at all.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Aidan Crenshaw, on 14 April 2020 - 11:17 PM, said:

Where do you have that from? Sarna has no information on such a quirk or design perk.

It was from here https://bg.battletec...p?topic=50397.0 which doesn't cite the perk from sarna but is repeated multiple times in the article. Give or take I do believe the OP did pull that information about the double heat sink padding quirk from a rule book but I could be wrong.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

There is nothing in that article that suggests anything irregular, just that the sidetorsos and CT are packed with heatsinks and that the WHM-IIC mounts the durable STD-engine.

[Sniper09121986]

Basically no quirks per se, just that the mechs game the system by virtue of design, pretty much like... MWO meta Another example would be glider protomechs that make up for their lack of usable weight by being next to impossible to hit at all.

[Gas Guzzler]

Sniper09121986, on 08 April 2020 - 08:02 AM, said:

And what is this Highlander-IIC Cu Chulainn hero mech? Was it in some special giveaway or something?

I too am curious about this guy. Why would they not sell it? It would sell like hotcakes.

[PocketYoda]

Gas Guzzler, on 24 February 2021 - 11:02 AM, said:

I too am curious about this guy. Why would they not sell it? It would sell like hotcakes.

https://mwomercs.com...chasable-mechs/

[Wildstreak]

Gas Guzzler, on 24 February 2021 - 11:02 AM, said:

I too am curious about this guy. Why would they not sell it? It would sell like hotcakes.

Hah, nice try, saw this topic and almost thought it was a sale going on.

[PocketYoda]

Wildstreak, on 24 February 2021 - 04:48 PM, said:

Hah, nice try, saw this topic and almost thought it was a sale going on.

Same i was like yee ha ... oh damn..