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[martian]

Willard Phule, on 24 July 2020 - 02:59 PM, said:

At T2, I either end up playing with a bunch of T1s and better bring my A game or I'm just meat. Or I end up in a group of T3-4s (yep, that MM throttle opening) and it's constant lurm spam. Very little in between.

I see LRMs in Tier 1 games from time to time.

[Willard Phule]

Dashen, on 24 July 2020 - 11:45 PM, said:

90% of veterans are on autopilot, what did you expect. Without new people actually looking at the minimap we're left with automatons.

If you want a chance at reducing stomps use voice comms.

Nope, voice comms don't automatically equal victory. There's nothing more hilarious than being down 6/1 and all of a sudden, someone starts giving orders.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

martian, on 25 July 2020 - 06:29 AM, said:

I see LRMs in Tier 1 games from time to time.

Yeah...but it’s kinda rare. If you get the missle warning in tier 1 it’s probably ATM’s....and you can almost be certain it’s from one of those pop-tart Vapor Eagles.

[martian]

Marquis De Lafayette, on 25 July 2020 - 06:39 AM, said:

Yeah...but it’s kinda rare. If you get the missle warning in tier 1 it’s probably ATM’s....and you can almost be certain it’s from one of those pop-tart Vapor Eagles.

That's true. Sometimes I see LRM-Trebuchets too.

[Nesutizale]

Seams like I have to get good and reach T1...the LRMing is sometimes terrible.
Just had a match on Polar where they deleted our team one by one in seconds...thanks to some scouts.

Or I hope they all move up in Tier and they are out of my hair too

[Novakaine]

Hmmm blame teamwork and coordination?

[Willard Phule]

martian, on 25 July 2020 - 06:29 AM, said:

I see LRMs in Tier 1 games from time to time.

Yeah, but not like in T3 where half of each team finds a place to stand still and wait for locks.

[Jman5]

Marquis De Lafayette, on 25 July 2020 - 06:39 AM, said:

Yeah...but it’s kinda rare. If you get the missle warning in tier 1 it’s probably ATM’s....and you can almost be certain it’s from one of those pop-tart Vapor Eagles.

I went down to half a ton of ammo for my AMS because the amount of LRMs so noticeably declined.

[martian]

Willard Phule, on 25 July 2020 - 08:37 AM, said:

Yeah, but not like in T3 where half of each team finds a place to stand still and wait for locks.

Right. I am missing those LRM-filled Atlases that I used to meet so frequently.


And the usual first message in the Team Chat: "Hold locks, please!" is no longer seen so often.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

Starting to see a bit more streak mechs in tier 1. Probably, because their are more lights and more light pilots that are harder to hit. So, I guess it makes sense...personally I rarely saw streaks in the old tier 1

[Marquis De Lafayette]

martian, on 25 July 2020 - 06:58 AM, said:

That's true. Sometimes I see LRM-Trebuchets too.

Yeah...just saw one of those. It gives the lrm boat a bit more mobility I guess

[martian]

Marquis De Lafayette, on 25 July 2020 - 10:04 AM, said:

Starting to see a bit more streak mechs in tier 1. Probably, because their are more lights and more light pilots that are harder to hit. So, I guess it makes sense...personally I rarely saw streaks in the old tier 1

Occasionally I take them if I am annoyed by enemy lights, but it gets boring soon.

Marquis De Lafayette, on 25 July 2020 - 10:13 AM, said:

Yeah...just saw one of those. It gives the lrm boat a bit more mobility I guess

Well, it has some missile quirks, so I can understand why people are using this 'Mech, but it is too easily countered by the enemy for my taste.

[East Indy]

I'll definitely take being the runt of the litter in Tier 1 matches than the current off-hours experience. Right now, we seem to have players on their way to Tier 4 or Tier 5 but still in Tier 3, plus unevenly skilled groups due to a limited matchmaker. Oof! Nasty combo if luck is not on your side.

I do like the practice of recording matches, though, to prevent confirmation bias. I'll try to start.

[Monkey Lover]

East Indy, on 25 July 2020 - 12:47 PM, said:

I'll definitely take being the runt of the litter in Tier 1 matches than the current off-hours experience. Right now, we seem to have players on their way to Tier 4 or Tier 5 but still in Tier 3, plus unevenly skilled groups due to a limited matchmaker. Oof! Nasty combo if luck is not on your side.

I do like the practice of recording matches, though, to prevent confirmation bias. I'll try to start.

My understanding there is zero balance when it comes to teams. In Pgi view all teams are tier 1. I don't see how this is ever going to work. Good luck taking your friend into the game and showing him around.

I think this is why we see a lot of teams are stomping posts. Questions should be " Paul why is a tier4 team fighting 228".

Edited by Monkey Lover, 25 July 2020 - 12:58 PM.

[Dashen]

Willard Phule, on 25 July 2020 - 06:35 AM, said:

Nope, voice comms don't automatically equal victory. There's nothing more hilarious than being down 6/1 and all of a sudden, someone starts giving orders.

Sometimes i feel like talking chinese or something.
I'm sure if you could be so kind to reread my post you would understand my words better.

[Nesutizale]

From my understanding, from what Paul hinted at, it is so that Teams are treated as beeing what the highest players Tier is.
So yes if the highest player in the group is T1 then the entire group will be sorted by MM against another T1 group. Is the highest T3 all are T3 for the sake of sorting things out.

[BTGbullseye]

There are also some stomps due to previously T1 players deliberately tanking their matches just to lower their tiers... I had 3 matches filled with them just this morning. They want to drop in tier, and they don't care who they drag down with them. (they literally said so)

[martian]

BTGbullseye, on 25 July 2020 - 10:55 PM, said:

There are also some stomps due to previously T1 players deliberately tanking their matches just to lower their tiers... I had 3 matches filled with them just this morning. They want to drop in tier, and they don't care who they drag down with them. (they literally said so)

Did they really say that?

[BTGbullseye]

martian, on 25 July 2020 - 11:20 PM, said:

Did they really say that?

Yes, in all 3 matches. All different players too.

[martian]

BTGbullseye, on 25 July 2020 - 11:31 PM, said:

Yes, in all 3 matches. All different players too.

I am not happy to hear that, but unless they do something visible such as deliberate teamkilling or team treason, there is nothing you could do with it.