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[V O L T R O N]

Screen shot of the baps and what they do. The difference here is the Clan bap does not counter ecm. However, this is buggy. Sometimes it will, sometimes it wont. I was in Solaris vs a kitfox last season and he locked on to me even when I was in stealth. It was really strange. He didnt have bap or anything. Today I was in a match and Chikki Pukki was in a Summoner and he countered me. I said something and he said Tag maybe? and I was under 90 meters. My buddy Thunderkats said he talked to NGNG and they fixed it. Seems like it works sometimes and doesnt at others. Also say if you dont have stealth on, someone locks on you, and then you turn on stealth long as they hold lock on you, they will keep it. Kinda strange. It always seems like if im the streak boat im not getting my f******** locks or if im in my ecm mech im being countered by someone who isnt supose to be able to counter me. I really wish they could clarify and fix the info on the bap if they did update it. I can deal with a lot of things, but not buggy *** gameplay where the discriptions and scripts for weapons dont work right.... Come on pgi.

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[Horseman]

Fairly sure the description is wrong and both probes counter ECM

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Horseman, on 29 August 2020 - 09:30 AM, said:

Fairly sure the description is wrong and both probes counter ECM

Im fairly sure you need to log in and check again.

[Willard Phule]

I don't use IS garbage and rarely use TAG. I use cBAP constantly. It's always been "iffy" about working. But here's a weird one...you can put cBAP on something with cECM and get the same effect. Sometimes, you can turn the ECM to counter and light up a stealth mech if you're close enough. Not sure why, just know it does.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

I tested today in a private lobby. Clan Active Probe and Clan Light Active Probe both cancel ECM, can't do jack against Stealth, the range of the CLAP is 240m for countering ECM, CAP I think was 360m.
TAG does make a Stealth/ECM target lockable when not under "Low Signal" status.
Activating Stealth does not break a target or missile lock, unless LOS is broken (-/+ Radar Deprivation/Target Decay/Quirks).

[Scout Derek]

Solaris is a bad test of BAP; most of the solaris maps are broken that allow targeting at angles that shouldn't be allowed; this is the result of PGI being lazy and rushing that resulted in incomplete maps.

[FindersWeepers]

Excellent post, my wife's son and wifes boyfriend were asking me the same thing yesterday.

I wonder when pgi will fix this, balance lockons, and come up with a new gameplay loop that doesn't involve being forced to hide from insane lockon dps like you're in an apartment in Dresden circa 1945

[Willard Phule]

FUN AND ENGAGING GAMEPLAY, on 30 August 2020 - 04:33 AM, said:

I wonder when pgi will fix this, balance lockons, and come up with a new gameplay loop that doesn't involve being forced to hide from insane lockon dps like you're in an apartment in Dresden circa 1945

That one is easy. As soon as it's off life support and they start putting time and effort back into it.....which means, never.

Look around you at the most recent changes to both FP and QP. It seems pretty obvious that PGI would be happy if MW:O just tanked and died.

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Kukulza, on 29 August 2020 - 06:38 PM, said:

I guess you understand game mechanics as well as you understand reality, mr flat earth.

[redacted] Clan bap hasnt always countered ecm, ask pgi... Its not in the description, so im just wondering when it was changed and if they can edit their text in the bap information. Something we were discussing in coms. [redacted]

Edited by Ekson Valdez, 30 August 2020 - 10:47 PM.

[LordNothing]

i still maintain that the best equipment for breaking stealth is a ppc. it just works.

[BackShot]

That is more entertaining than just another lock on based thread to me
Please go on.

[Fae Puka]

So by your reasoning, "Stealth" has to be "god mode" and unable to be countered? Meet my 3 heavy ppcs, they do a wonderful job of countering folk who believe they are entitled to spoil game play . . .

[Ekson Valdez]

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