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[The pessimistic optimist]

Hate this idea that brawling is only at 300m is just wrong. MRM and AC10 and ER meds? https://mech.nav-alp...#5d69a5bb_ON1-P and MRM are brawling weapons for sure

[Horseman]

SirSmokes, on 05 December 2020 - 02:33 AM, said:

Hate this idea that brawling is only at 300m is just wrong. MRM and AC10 and ER meds? https://mech.nav-alp...#5d69a5bb_ON1-P and MRM are brawling weapons for sure

This thread has been dead and gone for six years. Do you know what the mods do to such threads?

Artist's impression: Moderators ready to brain the zombie thread with a mech-sized entrenching tool

Edited by Horseman, 05 December 2020 - 04:06 AM.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Horseman, on 05 December 2020 - 04:04 AM, said:

This thread has been dead and gone for six years. Do you know what the mods do to such threads?

Artist's impression: Moderators ready to brain the zombie thread with a mech-sized entrenching tool

Blame [color=#F0FF5A]OZHomerOZ[/color]
he linked to it *shurgs* oh well

Edited by SirSmokes, 05 December 2020 - 06:18 AM.

[Elizander]

I define it as having bigger booms and more sustain than the other guy that isn't a brawler when at close range.

[The pessimistic optimist]

Elizander, on 05 December 2020 - 06:29 AM, said:

I define it as having bigger booms and more sustain than the other guy that isn't a brawler when at close range.

MRM are very much brawl weapons but there not close range only there mid range

[General Solo]

Horseman, on 05 December 2020 - 04:04 AM, said:

This thread has been dead and gone for six years. Do you know what the mods do to such threads?

Artist's impression: Moderators ready to brain the zombie thread with a mech-sized entrenching tool

SirSmokes, on 05 December 2020 - 06:15 AM, said:

Blame [color=#F0FF5A]OZHomerOZ[/color]
he linked to it *shurgs* oh well

So you fell for the trap
lol

Edited by OZHomerOZ, 05 December 2020 - 02:39 PM.

[Tarogato]

SirSmokes, on 05 December 2020 - 02:33 AM, said:

Hate this idea that brawling is only at 300m is just wrong. MRM and AC10 and ER meds? https://mech.nav-alp...#5d69a5bb_ON1-P and MRM are brawling weapons for sure

Weeeee necroposting.

What you have there is very much a short-to-midrange trading build. That is NOT a brawling build.

MRMs are midrange weapons that are good at brawling.
UAC10 is an unreliable midrange trading/DPS weapon.
ERML is a hot midrange trading weapon.


Here are some brawling builds for the Protector to compare:
2LB10 + 2SRM6a https://mech.nav-alp...#bde38318_ON1-P
AC20 + 2SRM6a + 3MPL https://mech.nav-alp...#b6ff8be7_ON1-P
AC20 + MRM50 https://mech.nav-alp...#2a5471a5_ON1-P
HGauss + MRM40 https://mech.nav-alp...#3f6e81e1_ON1-P


There's other ways to do it, but if you're going to build a mech that you wish to brawl with:

- stay away from unreliable UACs. Use standard AC and LBX (for clan, use only LBX)
- HGauss is plausible, but generally not preferred in a pure brawling sense. Still very strong.
- use SRMs or MRMs, but not too many MRMs because they can get too hot to brawl with
- use short duration lasers, or the lasers with the least heat or highest DPS
- SNPPC and cERPPC can be used to augment burst damage
- avoid using IS XL on most chassis (some can still do very effectively)

[Elizander]

Tarogato, on 05 December 2020 - 07:59 PM, said:

There's other ways to do it, but if you're going to build a mech that you wish to brawl with:

- stay away from unreliable UACs. Use standard AC and LBX (for clan, use only LBX)
- HGauss is plausible, but generally not preferred in a pure brawling sense. Still very strong.
- use SRMs or MRMs, but not too many MRMs because they can get too hot to brawl with
- use short duration lasers, or the lasers with the least heat or highest DPS
- SNPPC and cERPPC can be used to augment burst damage
- avoid using IS XL on most chassis (some can still do very effectively)

I agree as I've had a 2x UAC/20 mech with Jam chance reduction dual jam on me on the first shot the moment I got into brawl range. It was freaking ugly.

I see MRMs as mostly a supplementary brawl weapon that can trade/poke. For mechs that are not blessed with godlike hardpoints, adding an MRM40 to what's already there can help with damage numbers, but I find SRMs to be more reliable for quicker kills.

SRMs and LBX are surprisingly good against light mechs. There are many times where I've literally blown away 50%-100% of a light mech with one Alpha from my 2x LB20 4x SRM Scorch. Most of the time one alpha will make them lose a leg or kill them outright and it's pretty easy to aim compared to a pinpoint weapon.

This fact just makes me sad because the IS LB20 is one crit too big to be good and using an AC/20 just isn't the same when paired with SRMs, especially when doing alphas against moving targets.

[Ekson Valdez]

Necro-Posts are considered un-constructive, because the game has undergone so many changes since its inception. If you feel a topic should be discussed and there is not already a recent thread about it, please open a new one.
Since there is already some very good contemporary information after the necro, I split this into a new topic, so you can go on.
Also, I'm totally going to steal this.


Someone called the Gravedigger?

[PocketYoda]

550m is very much outer mech brawling zones.. as most weapons hit there these days.. 250m is really close brawling and by then its a cluster %&$#.