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#21 account redo v1

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 03:13 AM

Doesn't it take longer to join a match below tier 3? Or has that changed recently?

#22 Lou Tenant

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 03:52 AM

False title. You CAN scrub up with PPCs. Just not with 2ERPPC Viper.

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 05:31 AM

yea i actually got my ace with a quad ppc supernova. and it was on hpg so i ended up brawling with it. and 30% velocity just means a few less pixels of lead.

Edited by LordNothing, 09 January 2021 - 05:38 AM.


#24 CFC Conky

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 10:31 AM

@OP,

So, you want PGI to change the scoring system to enhance your play style? Riiiiight.

Tell ya what, why dontcha start your own gaming company and make games any way you want? Posted Image

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 09 January 2021 - 12:48 PM.


#25 Louis Brofist

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 05:16 AM

This has got to be one of the dumber posts I've seen. What exactly do you want?

#26 Willard Phule

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 07:40 AM

You can do it better in a Cougar with ECM and JJs. Just' sayin'.

#27 Steel Claws

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 03:33 PM

I think the real question here is how are you trying to play it? PPCs are not brawler weapons per say and the viper is more of a hit and run mech. Stay in the second line, and use jump jets to pop up from cover to poke when they least expect it - move - rinse and repeat. You also need the right map. As others have said - there are mechs better suited to the roll. The viper is better with small pulse lasers and machine guns as a light mech killer.

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 03:39 PM

i think his main problem is that he is fairly new and doesn't have many mechs. so he is trying various playstyles on the few he has. as he acquires more mechs he will grow out of this phase, like most players do. i remember when i was using a cplt-k2 as 5 other mechs that could do the job better. when all you have is a hammer...

Edited by LordNothing, 10 January 2021 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2021 - 04:53 PM

My Fafnir machine gun build gets all kinds of ****** up by 3-minute matches.

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 05:15 PM

View PostSteel Claws, on 10 January 2021 - 03:33 PM, said:

I think the real question here is how are you trying to play it? PPCs are not brawler weapons per say and the viper is more of a hit and run mech. Stay in the second line, and use jump jets to pop up from cover to poke when they least expect it - move - rinse and repeat. You also need the right map. As others have said - there are mechs better suited to the roll. The viper is better with small pulse lasers and machine guns as a light mech killer.


I have lag issues sometimes that affect hit reg with lasers. PPCs don't seem to have this problem. I also like the extreme mobility with 2 erppcs. I made an incubus one time with 2erppcs, but it's armor was too low. With jump jets like this, I can get to almost any position without needing to calculate much. It's not as effective as the vaper eagle, but I don't like fast and frenzied gameplay, so shooting, ducking back, shooting again, cooling down, works nicely.

View PostLordNothing, on 10 January 2021 - 03:39 PM, said:

i think his main problem is that he is fairly new and doesn't have many mechs. so he is trying various playstyles on the few he has. as he acquires more mechs he will grow out of this phase, like most players do. i remember when i was using a cplt-k2 as 5 other mechs that could do the job better. when all you have is a hammer...


I mean, I wouldn't say new 'per se'... https://mwomercs.com...-ignition-mech/
https://mwomercs.com...41-gooddragon1/

https://mwomercs.com...-mechs-for-fun/
https://mwomercs.com...23-gooddragon2/

#31 gooddragon2

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 05:17 PM

View Postaccount redo v1, on 10 January 2021 - 05:15 PM, said:


I have lag issues sometimes that affect hit reg with lasers. PPCs don't seem to have this problem. I also like the extreme mobility with 2 erppcs. I made an incubus one time with 2erppcs, but it's armor was too low. With jump jets like this, I can get to almost any position without needing to calculate much. It's not as effective as the vaper eagle, but I don't like fast and frenzied gameplay, so shooting, ducking back, shooting again, cooling down, works nicely.



I mean, I wouldn't say new 'per se'... https://mwomercs.com...-ignition-mech/
https://mwomercs.com...41-gooddragon1/

https://mwomercs.com...-mechs-for-fun/
https://mwomercs.com...23-gooddragon2/


You certainly make some interesting points. I'd give you a pat on the back, but I'd be patting myself on the back...

#32 LordNothing

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:03 PM

View Postaccount redo v1, on 10 January 2021 - 05:15 PM, said:



alt accounts? too much grind for dat.

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Posted 10 January 2021 - 06:40 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 10 January 2021 - 06:03 PM, said:


alt accounts? too much grind for dat.


I don't use the other ones any more. Just focused on this one.

I am saving up for a 3erppc veagle btw, it's just difficult. I like erppc gameplay, and maybe I can farm rank with it while still doing that so I can use the rank to play my viper (I'm paranoid that pgi might change the matchmaker, and it's easier to lose rank than gain it).

I wonder if I'd get torn to shreds in my viper in short order if I ever got to tier 1 and brought it into a match?

Edited by account redo v1, 10 January 2021 - 06:40 PM.


#34 Bigbacon

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 05:03 AM

forget about PSR and just play.

PSR is easily manipulated and meaningless.

you need to play the dual ERPPC artic cheetah.

Edited by Bigbacon, 11 January 2021 - 05:04 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2021 - 06:34 AM

View PostBigbacon, on 11 January 2021 - 05:03 AM, said:

forget about PSR and just play.

PSR is easily manipulated and meaningless.

you need to play the dual ERPPC artic cheetah.


ACH-PRIME

It has low armor and can't jump as high...

Did you mean arctic wolf?

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 07:02 AM

View Postaccount redo v1, on 10 January 2021 - 05:15 PM, said:


I have lag issues sometimes that affect hit reg with lasers. PPCs don't seem to have this problem. I also like the extreme mobility with 2 erppcs. I made an incubus one time with 2erppcs, but it's armor was too low. With jump jets like this, I can get to almost any position without needing to calculate much. It's not as effective as the vaper eagle, but I don't like fast and frenzied gameplay, so shooting, ducking back, shooting again, cooling down, works nicely.



Another good mech for that play style is the Cicada 3M. Run it with 4 ERML and an UAC5 and ECM. Set out on the flanks and shoot away. If you just use the UAC when they are actively looking for you most people cant spot where it's coming from. Even if they do spot you most people will ignore a Cicada if there is something else to shoot. I've been turning damage scores over 600 pretty regular with one drop at 1180 and another over 900 the other day. The key is knowing when to and where to move.

Edited by Steel Claws, 11 January 2021 - 07:10 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2021 - 08:21 AM

View Postaccount redo v1, on 11 January 2021 - 06:34 AM, said:

ACH-PRIME

It has low armor and can't jump as high...

Did you mean arctic wolf?


nope that is it. its hilarious to play and it has even less armor. I have the ECM on there also. It seems to jump around just fine just can't make any hard falls Posted Image

i think its my most played mech that i have.

https://mwo.smurfy-n...22dbe4ec59b5f65

Edited by Bigbacon, 11 January 2021 - 08:25 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2021 - 09:47 AM

View Postaccount redo v1, on 11 January 2021 - 06:34 AM, said:

ACH-PRIME

It has low armor and can't jump as high...

Did you mean arctic wolf?


don't get a 2ppc cheta, its way too hot

clam 3ppcs: veagle
clam 2ppcs: summoner, huntsman, hunch2c, nova....cougar I guess

you could run a summoner with 3, or veagle with 2, but stick with the above combinations first

#39 Bigbacon

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Posted 11 January 2021 - 10:30 AM

View PostHazeclaw, on 11 January 2021 - 09:47 AM, said:


don't get a 2ppc cheta, its way too hot

clam 3ppcs: veagle
clam 2ppcs: summoner, huntsman, hunch2c, nova....cougar I guess

you could run a summoner with 3, or veagle with 2, but stick with the above combinations first


its fine....its silly and its fun.

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Posted 13 January 2021 - 01:35 PM

View Postaccount redo v1, on 08 January 2021 - 05:01 PM, said:

https://youtu.be/4N91fk-RN1Y?t=438

The match ended in 3 minutes and 21 seconds. My only concern is that I run this mech:
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More to the point: If I landed every single shot, I'd get 90*3 = 270 damage. With match score being the way it is, it means that the mech build would likely not be viable. Now, I don't think I've ever had a match that short, but it's concerning. I'd like some sort of bonus to match score for landing high damage shots with ppcs to offset this. Not sure how to implement it, so I can't make a detailed suggestion in the suggestion forum, but that's my take anyways.

I know, the vaper eagle is a thing, I'm saving up for one, but I like this sort of gameplay. Maybe I could go for headshots?

another copy and paste no skill player





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