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[Gas Guzzler]

So nobody wants the Civil War Highlander with 2 LL, Goose, and Heavy Goose?

I mean it seems like a GREAT variant to freshen up a chassis that doesn't get used but no one mentioned it

[Wildstreak]

But you can already build the stock on existing Highlanders, there is even a Gauss quirked one so why.

[ccrider]

I'd be on your side but AS7-A. An Atlas with 6 missle points a ballistic and 2 energy? With armor quirks you can srm6 x6 and lb10x for all the splat.

[Gas Guzzler]

Wildstreak, on 23 February 2021 - 05:54 AM, said:

But you can already build the stock on existing Highlanders, there is even a Gauss quirked one so why.

You must be confused. There is no Highlander that can fit a Heavy Gauss. Let alone a Heavy Gauss plus a regular Gauss.

ccrider, on 23 February 2021 - 06:35 AM, said:

I'd be on your side but AS7-A. An Atlas with 6 missle points a ballistic and 2 energy? With armor quirks you can srm6 x6 and lb10x for all the splat.

Sounds close range and too hot/slow to be that effective.

[ccrider]

Gas Guzzler, on 23 February 2021 - 07:16 AM, said:

You must be confused. There is no Highlander that can fit a Heavy Gauss. Let alone a Heavy Gauss plus a regular Gauss.



Sounds close range and too hot/slow to be that effective.

slow is irrelevant in FP when on siege defense. Hot is an issue but I'm not gonna pass up the chance to throw up that many missiles on someone.

[Gas Guzzler]

ccrider, on 23 February 2021 - 07:51 AM, said:

slow is irrelevant in FP when on siege defense. Hot is an issue but I'm not gonna pass up the chance to throw up that many missiles on someone.

That’s fine but I still think the HGN-694 adds more.

[ccrider]

Gas Guzzler, on 23 February 2021 - 08:17 AM, said:

That’s fine but I still think the HGN-694 adds more.

at this point I'm just irritated they didn't add the Anvil; an IS linebacker equivalent with jump jets and ecm. With hard point inflation and engine inflation it would get about 100kph with 6 med pulse and the jjs and ecm. So if I can't have that, I want big splat. I do see the upside to the highlander, but the Atlas is just more iconic to me. It's the first battletech mech that didn't borrow from other sources that I remember giving a deal about.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 February 2021 - 06:56 PM, said:

I mean it seems like a GREAT variant to freshen up a chassis that doesn't get used

Hey, my 733P and Heavy Metal both get regular use. but I've never been one to go for the tier 1 meta builds.

[Gas Guzzler]

ScrapIron Prime, on 23 February 2021 - 10:40 AM, said:

Hey, my 733P and Heavy Metal both get regular use. but I've never been one to go for the tier 1 meta builds.

MY 733C gets used as well but lets look a it holistically.... its an under used mech.

[Nightbird]

Ever since you left the game Gas, I'm the only one that uses the IS highlanders occasionally, at least in the laser gauss builds. You occasionally see the lrm boats from newbies.

[Heavy Money]

I think I can count the number of times I've seen a Highlander played on one hand. I can't think of a single time i've seen a Highland IIC played.

[Gas Guzzler]

Nightbird, on 23 February 2021 - 02:29 PM, said:

Ever since you left the game Gas, I'm the only one that uses the IS highlanders occasionally, at least in the laser gauss builds. You occasionally see the lrm boats from newbies.

I've been playing! Been trying to make the Marauder II work for a while but it sucks. I haven't done Faction Play because lack of matchmaker yields too much seal clubbing.

[Wildstreak]

I did miss it having 2 but Dual Gauss really does not appeal to many and is very limited in QP usage, I know I tried and had to move away from Gauss builds just to feel useful.

Heavy Money, on 23 February 2021 - 03:08 PM, said:

I think I can count the number of times I've seen a Highlander played on one hand. I can't think of a single time i've seen a Highland IIC played.

I can count the number of IS HGNs I have seen on no hands because 0 is how many, maybe 4-5 IICs.

Kinda explains all those wonderful responses I got to this.

[Heavy Money]

Wildstreak, on 23 February 2021 - 05:30 PM, said:

I did miss it having 2 but Dual Gauss really does not appeal to many and is very limited in QP usage, I know I tried and had to move away from Gauss builds just to feel useful.


I can count the number of IS HGNs I have seen on no hands because 0 is how many, maybe 4-5 IICs.

Kinda explains all those wonderful responses I got to this.

Ouch, those responses!

At a glance, it seems the problem with the Highlander IIC is that the Blood Asp, MadCat II and Marauder IIC exist, leaving no real room or role for it.

The problem with the IS Highlander is that it seems designed for medley loadouts (lots of mixed weapons) which don't really work. I guess about the best you're going to do is running mostly MRMs with some 10 sized ballistics and some medium lasers in whatever tonnage is left. And that's also done better by other mechs.

EDIT: What we really need is a JumpJet Weight Quirk (and for JumpJets to be better for Heavies and Assaults.) Even if you could fit decent weapons on the highlander, its still not gonna run proper JJ loadouts because its just not worth the tonnage.

Edited by Heavy Money, 23 February 2021 - 05:36 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Wildstreak, on 23 February 2021 - 05:30 PM, said:

I did miss it having 2 but Dual Gauss really does not appeal to many and is very limited in QP usage, I know I tried and had to move away from Gauss builds just to feel useful.


I can count the number of IS HGNs I have seen on no hands because 0 is how many, maybe 4-5 IICs.

Kinda explains all those wonderful responses I got to this.

Don't have to use Gauss. Can always use 2 UAC10s with PPCs. Any hardpoint inflation and 3 UAC5s and PPCs....

[Aidan Crenshaw]

Nightbird, on 23 February 2021 - 02:29 PM, said:

Ever since you left the game Gas, I'm the only one that uses the IS highlanders occasionally, at least in the laser gauss builds. You occasionally see the lrm boats from newbies.

Your wrong here, Nightbird, but timezones make it so we never meet on the battlefield.

[Gas Guzzler]

Wildstreak, on 23 February 2021 - 05:30 PM, said:

Kinda explains all those wonderful responses I got to this.

I got you a couple ideas on that thread