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[masdero]

Limiting the context to PPCs only, the objective of the "March patch" is raising the price of over-specialization: if you equip a Battlemech exclusively with PPCs and your teammates don't "cover" you from close range attacks, you are probably dead.

So the idea is that "PPC sniper" builds have an increased risk factor.

But the Snub PPC is not a sniper weapon, but a brawl weapon (at least if we do not have Physical Weapons), so it should have remained unaffected by this patch.

Does anybody agree?

[The pessimistic optimist]

masdero, on 17 March 2021 - 06:15 AM, said:

Limiting the context to PPCs only, the objective of the "March patch" is raising the price of over-specialization: if you equip a Battlemech exclusively with PPCs and your teammates don't "cover" you from close range attacks, you are probably dead.

So the idea is that "PPC sniper" builds have an increased risk factor.

But the Snub PPC is not a sniper weapon, but a brawl weapon (at least if we do not have Physical Weapons), so it should have remained unaffected by this patch.

Does anybody agree?

Yup

[The6thMessenger]

It's PGI, they **** things up, that is what they do.

It's even more chilling to know that they balance by spreadsheet, and the value they use were off. like SNPPC was at 9.5 heat -- no it's 10, the LPPC, PPC, ERPPC, and SNPPC at 4.5s CD, no it's at 4s.

[R Valentine]

The LGR, the snub PPC, and the LPPC were all pretty bad to begin with. None of them were a sniper weapon, because upfront damage was poor and DPS was mediocre, but they weren't brawling weapons either. Welp, with this here patch they are even further off into no man's land, because they are still not sniper weapons and they still aren't DPS weapons for brawling. They're further from either role than they've ever been. But I don't know you expected from PGI.

Edited by Kiran Yagami, 17 March 2021 - 06:20 AM.

[Nightbird]

2 snubppc hits as hard as a heavy gauss at 12 tons. Give it a shot, literally

[byebye360]

I did the cool down kills it?

[Ignatius Audene]

pgi got achievement unlocked. Found a way to nerv snubnosed ppc. Thought this is harder than liquid metal.

4mpl hit as hard as a heavy gauss. Since when was a single heavy gauss good? (not heat free higher cd?)

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 17 March 2021 - 12:29 PM.

[LordNothing]

byebye360, on 17 March 2021 - 06:34 AM, said:

I did the cool down kills it?

then run four.

ppc boats are back.

Edited by LordNothing, 17 March 2021 - 12:24 PM.

[Ignatius Audene]

normal ppc i am with you. But snub is sad. and sadly like always patch encouraging boating even better.

Additionally esp clan pc where good in fp etc. and bad in qp with shaky hands. Now they are even ++++ that in both.

ac2 velo buff rly?? u can continue this forever

Edited by Ignatius Audene, 17 March 2021 - 12:41 PM.

[ShiverMeRivets]

LGR has a limited use now as a lighter and smaller (crit slots) version of the old GR. The special thing about it is being able to mount 2 LGRs in a ST with LFE engine. LGR had no use before, except perhaps 4LGR Fafniers.

PPC boats were always only useful on mechs mobile enough to stay within the team and/or outmaneuver the opponents and keep 90 m away.

[Dogstar]

ShiverMeRivets, on 17 March 2021 - 10:59 PM, said:

PPC boats were always only useful on mechs mobile enough to stay within the team and/or outmaneuver the opponents and keep 90 m away.

Had a great example of this yesterday - we're down to the last minute of a highly chaotic match and there's me in an armourless PPC Awesome alongside a triple AMS PPC Kit Fox vs an out of ammo SRM Commando... Kit Fox can't hit worth a damn and I can't get range while the Commando attempts to kill me by bumping me to death

All it needed was yakkity sax music!

Edited by Dogstar, 18 March 2021 - 01:19 AM.

[PocketYoda]

masdero, on 17 March 2021 - 06:15 AM, said:

Limiting the context to PPCs only, the objective of the "March patch" is raising the price of over-specialization: if you equip a Battlemech exclusively with PPCs and your teammates don't "cover" you from close range attacks, you are probably dead.

So the idea is that "PPC sniper" builds have an increased risk factor.

But the Snub PPC is not a sniper weapon, but a brawl weapon (at least if we do not have Physical Weapons), so it should have remained unaffected by this patch.

Does anybody agree?

No i don't agree i feel the LPPC and SPPC should have had their tonnage cooldown and heat slightly lowered to fit the spec.