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[Andrewlik]

I think i found my gameplay style: 2x PPC on a decently mobile mech. Head forward to the main engagement point, get a few early spots, get a shot off, then fall back to the sidelines and ride ridgelines.
I think I like this because its similar to my gameplay style in World of Tanks - I really liked fast light and medium mechs that could do that before they screwed the game balance.

I've been doing the trial mech challenge, and I've learned I like the trial adder b/c it runs cool and fast, but the low energy hardpoints have tripped me up over ridgelines
The shadowcat I like for a similar reason, mobile ER PPC platform, also has ECM, but it runs a little hot for my taste.
I already run a dual ER PPC Catapult K2 with UAC/2, but its more of a "medium" mech in terms of gameplay compared to the shadowcat/adder's "light"
any recommendations for a fast mech with high er ppc mounts and either AMS or ECM? Ideally a mech that is "short"

[My Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ]

https://mech.nav-alp...#36751b94_VGL-1

[justcallme A S H]

Define - Fast.

Then suggestions can flow. Huge difference between a SHC and a K2.

The SHC should not be hot if you have the right skill tree. I ran one the other night for a few hours and it was totally fine.

[Andrewlik]

justcallme A S H, on 16 April 2021 - 07:24 PM, said:

Define - Fast.

Then suggestions can flow. Huge difference between a SHC and a K2.

The SHC should not be hot if you have the right skill tree. I ran one the other night for a few hours and it was totally fine.

90+ KMH, and also good acceleration/deceleration for ridge peeking
The K2 is a good mech bUT it's a different gameplay style
Adder and SHC are good, I'm just wondering what's the best in those vein of mechs

[ScrapIron Prime]

The Adder’s arm hard points suck. In that tonnage, the Shadowcat is best. You can run the same layout with a Cicada 3M (255xl, ECM, 2 ERPPC) and get better hard points and 104 kph, but IS peeps just aren’t as good.

edit...

also, after the patch on the 20th, Light PPCs will have no minimum range. That will open up quite a few light mech builds. Such as a Panther or Jenner like the following:

https://mech.nav-alp...0b9134dc_JR7-DS

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 16 April 2021 - 08:50 PM.

[cougurt]

https://mech.nav-alp...#b7688507_ACW-A

jump capable, high mounts, and has more heatsinks than the shadow cat. it's noticeably squishier and lacks the ECM and MASC, but it might be just what you're looking for. make sure you use the prime arm omnipods for the extra armor.

you can also run 2 CERPPCs on the ACW-2, but you lose out on the JJs. it has a 10% energy cooldown quirk and is more flexible if you decide you want more heatsinks, AMS, or a larger engine, though i personally find the JJs more useful.

Edited by cougurt, 16 April 2021 - 09:18 PM.

[TheCaptainJZ]

The Shadowcat is pretty renowned for the dual ER PPC build. Keep in mind that if you own one, rather than using the trial, you can skill it up to make it run cooler. The Vapor Eagle is another popular ER PPC mech out there right now. I can't think of any IS ones at the moment that I've seen running around that are fast, but of course you could make one pretty easily. Just might not be the most effective. There's a Blackjack variant (think it's the BJ-3). There's a Shadowhawk variant with 3 energy in the left torso that you could peek with. There's a Panther variant quirked for PPCs but it's not terribly fast, plus it has to be in the right arm, which is low and shot off easily. Also, IS ER PPCs just aren't the same as Clan anyway.

[Vxheous]

ScrapIron Prime, on 16 April 2021 - 08:20 PM, said:

The Adder’s arm hard points suck. In that tonnage, the Shadowcat is best. You can run the same layout with a Cicada 3M (255xl, ECM, 2 ERPPC) and get better hard points and 104 kph, but IS peeps just aren’t as good.

edit...

also, after the patch on the 20th, Light PPCs will have no minimum range. That will open up quite a few light mech builds. Such as a Panther or Jenner like the following:

https://mech.nav-alp...0b9134dc_JR7-DS

Adder can mount torso ERPPC, at the expense of the set of 8 quirks of -5% ERPPC heat generation, and +10% ERPPC velocity, so it's a tradeoff of arm mounts + quirks + more exposure, or high mounts, no quirks but less exposure.

Shadowcat, Arctic Wolf, Vapor Eagle, Ice Ferret, Hunchback IIc-A, Huntsman, among a few others can do 2 ERPPC (3 in the case of the Veagle, Hunchback IIc-A and Huntsman) while also being a fast mover.

[PocketYoda]

Blackjacks, Cicadas, Phoenix Hawks, Vindicators, Uziels and Crabs somewhat.. Laugh but i do somewhat well in a Hellspawn with HPPC and medium lasers, they are jump capable and they can be really fast..


Shadowcats.
Arctic Wolves but arms are really low like an Adders.

Edited by MechaGnome, 16 April 2021 - 09:38 PM.

[Vxheous]

MechaGnome, on 16 April 2021 - 09:33 PM, said:

Blackjacks, Cicadas, Phoenix Hawks, Vindicators, Uziels and Crabs somewhat.. Laugh but i do somewhat well in a Hellspawn with HPPC and medium lasers, they are jump capable and they can be really fast..


Shadowcats.
Arctic Wolves but arms are really low like an Adders.

Arctic Wolf Prime has a Right torso that has super high mounts for ERPPC

[justcallme A S H]

Andrewlik, on 16 April 2021 - 07:47 PM, said:

90+ KMH, and also good acceleration/deceleration for ridge peeking
The K2 is a good mech bUT it's a different gameplay style
Adder and SHC are good, I'm just wondering what's the best in those vein of mechs

SHC then.

MASC and JJ. It's plenty cool enough to rack up 600dmg+ in a 4m QP match. Just takes some getting used to and ensure you reposition when you hit max heat and you'll be good.

[jjm1]

Black Lanner -A

I use it with ECM, 1 PPC and 3 smalls. It will still get hot if you're leaning on the PPC button hard enough.

[PocketYoda]

Vxheous, on 16 April 2021 - 09:42 PM, said:

Arctic Wolf Prime has a Right torso that has super high mounts for ERPPC

Fair enough still losing one shoulder and my weapons would bother me. I actually run two erppcs and two srm4s so my shoulders are taken.

jjm1, on 16 April 2021 - 10:01 PM, said:

Black Lanner -A

I use it with ECM, 1 PPC and 3 smalls. It will still get hot if you're leaning on the PPC button hard enough.

These might be some what better after the 20th patch

Edited by MechaGnome, 16 April 2021 - 10:18 PM.

[Vxheous]

MechaGnome, on 16 April 2021 - 10:15 PM, said:

Fair enough still losing one shoulder and my weapons would bother me.

Yeah, you have to be super careful about the single torso, but it's very limited exposure, plus you have JJ so it's not so bad.

[Saved By The Bell]

Hatamoto with ERR PPCs, ECM, AMS, SRMs + pulse lasers. You dont need to run.

Edited by Saved By The Bell, 17 April 2021 - 03:30 AM.

[CFC Conky]

I know it's not your definition of fast, but that Huntsman Prime PGI gave away last February is pretty handy with two ERPPCs. I tried it with the current version of the weapon and had some surprisingly (for me anyway ) fun matches with it.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 17 April 2021 - 11:06 AM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

shadowcat does it well enough - I can't stand to see these things though (it's overdone and most of the time "underused", ending matches as the last man hiding standing with pitiful contribution more often than not).

I prefer the arctic wolf, too

- and/or the adder.
granted, the low arm-mounts is something you have to get used at, but the quirkset makes up for it.
it's also 10t lighter (matters in fw-decks (to be fair: if you bring an adder or scat, you're doing it for %reasons% anyway ;D))

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 17 April 2021 - 11:45 AM.