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[Y E O N N E]

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TIL IS Medium Mechs can fit 60-point laser-vomit alpha strikes.

Edited by Ekson Valdez, 24 January 2021 - 11:42 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Miss Greene, on 24 January 2021 - 12:27 AM, said:

TIL IS Medium Mechs can fit 60-point laser-vomit alpha strikes.

Wait where?

IS heavy can (BL-6B-KNT) with a 10% energy heat gen quirk.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 24 January 2021 - 07:50 AM.

[FupDup]

Gas Guzzler, on 24 January 2021 - 07:50 AM, said:

Wait where?

Greene is saying that it was stupid for the poster above to compare the Battlemaster's firepower to a medium mech.

[Gas Guzzler]

Ah okay that makes sense.

[Y E O N N E]

I should come clean, a Battlemaster can't fit a 60-point vomit alpha...you have to mix in a pair of HPPCs to get there.

Does not actually run that hot. It's hot, but justifiably so.

[Gas Guzzler]

Miss Greene, on 24 January 2021 - 08:50 AM, said:

I should come clean, a Battlemaster can't fit a 60-point vomit alpha...you have to mix in a pair of HPPCs to get there.

Does not actually run that hot. It's hot, but justifiably so.

Haha, I did actually take 10 seconds to think about that... I thought maybe you meant 6 LPL on the BLR-1G.

However, the BL-6B-KNT can do 3LPL 6 ML, and it runs pretty well. I have an XL350, but I'm sure you can run it almost as well with an LFE just a bit slower.

[Horseman]

Y E O N N E, on 24 January 2021 - 12:27 AM, said:

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TIL IS Medium Mechs can fit 60-point laser-vomit alpha strikes.

Without knowing the exact context... three larges and six mediums get you to a 57 point alpha. HBK-4P can do it, but the heat will be... uncomfortable

Edited by Horseman, 07 June 2021 - 01:27 PM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Horseman, on 07 June 2021 - 01:25 PM, said:

Without knowing the exact context... three larges and six mediums get you to a 57 point alpha. HBK-4P can do it, but the heat will be... uncomfortable

Two large and seven mediums is 53 alpha and it’s actually somewhat sustainable.

[Ignatius Audene]

Nine-Ball, on 07 June 2021 - 11:15 AM, said:

LPL builds are dumb.

Toss in a Light 350, 412/516 points of armor (drop the leg and arm armor).

6 Medium Lasers

1 Heavy PPC

1 RAC/5

2 DHS (or drop both for AMS and Rocket 15s)

You are now going 71.7 /w speed boost

You can also side poke and unleash RAC5 or Heavy PPC (left side RAC, right side PPC) and even poke over ridges for a 30-point Alpha.

99.5 "Alpha"

Lpl got. Massive buff and are quite good now. 4ll with meds or ermeds get some good alpha strikes 2. But your build is meh

[martian]

Nine-Ball, on 07 June 2021 - 11:15 AM, said:

LPL builds are dumb
....

Your BattleMaster has Heavy PPC, i.e. weapon good for snap shots and torso twisting. Those medium lasers are good for firing and torso twisting too. Okay.

But that RAC-5 requires a long face time and thus goes against the rest of your 'Mech's loadout.
Personally I would use some other weapon in its place.

[Tesunie]

martian, on 10 June 2021 - 03:21 AM, said:

Your BattleMaster has Heavy PPC, i.e. weapon good for snap shots and torso twisting. Those medium lasers are good for firing and torso twisting too. Okay.

But that RAC-5 requires a long face time and thus goes against the rest of your 'Mech's loadout.
Personally I would use some other weapon in its place.

An AC10 or UAC10 (depending upon weight of course) would probably be better options. Pairs well with the HPPC as well.

[Ignatius Audene]

Ac starts getting an option if u ran into ghost heat situations. Before this 2hppc are just better.

[martian]

Ignatius Audene, on 11 June 2021 - 12:56 AM, said:

Ac starts getting an option if u ran into ghost heat situations. Before this 2hppc are just better.

You are right - especially on some 'Mechs.

It depends on if the previous poster owns BLR-1G with seven energy hardpoints or BLR-3M with eight energy hardpoints.

[Tesunie]

Ignatius Audene, on 11 June 2021 - 12:56 AM, said:

Ac starts getting an option if u ran into ghost heat situations. Before this 2hppc are just better.

Also depends upon weight, heat efficiency, etc. The (U)AC10 runs cooler than a second HPPC, and I believe has better recycle times. I've got several mechs that dual PPCs would push it's heat levels higher than I like, but paired PPC and AC10 runs at a solid level of heat.

Keep in mind that this proposed Battlemaster build also has energy slots in the torso being used, probably in the same time frame. Dual HPPC may be too hot for the mech to handle in concert with those other additional weapons being fired.

(Keep in mind, I'm not saying you can't do dual HPPCs. Just that there are cases and reasons to potentially take other options.)