15 replies to this topic

[SquattinDawg]

This is quite possibly the worst objective design I've EVER seen. You want us to lose.... to complete a portion of the event. That is promotion of unhealthy behavior. Do NOT do this again, PGI.

[Leone]

You don't hafta complete every event.

~Leone.

[Vindicated]

Don't worry, trying to dive streamers also throws matches.

And all events aside, tactical suicide seems pretty common in this game, to the point where it becomes a salt generator. It's not like throwing doesn't happen on a regular basis, in fact too regular.

[SquattinDawg]

Not really the point, point is what it promotes.

[MechNexus]

It's just one loss per map. That's going to happen eventually, and nobody's really going to throw for a cockpit item.

[Gagis]

It does provide a pretty stupid incentive but luckily it seems it hasn't affected player behiaviour much in this case. By the time they have done most of the other challenges there is an extremely high chance even some of the best players will have naturally lost a few games by then.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

quit it after 5 Hibernal painmatches ,and one Polar win/loss...to many White Gray pain for my Senses and Playing around Ice obstacles...a simple CP Item is not really a Price for this Pain

Edited by MW Waldorf Statler, 29 June 2021 - 01:43 AM.

[FupDup]

You can try your absolute hardest and still lose. You don't have to throw, the loss will come eventually on its own.

[Aidan Crenshaw]

The snowflake hanging item is so negligible, I wouldn't even make the effort to put up a single word on the for...GAWDAMMIT!

Edited by Aidan Crenshaw, 29 June 2021 - 03:54 AM.

[Brom96]

My chances to win a game on new Polar are around 20% .

[ScrapIron Prime]

Oh look. Another mole hill has been granted mountain status.

Win/loss ratio averages out to 1:1 across the community. So if you just play the game and try your best, eventually you’ll get the reward anyway. You don’t have to throw a match, you just have to keep playing.

I like the fact that this event I won’t be constantly checking back to see whether I’ve done enough damage with a certain weapon so I can quit playing that mech and go back to one I like better. I just play and check the event page at the end of the week to scoop up my winnings. The fact that one or more of them were actually “losings” does not bother me.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 29 June 2021 - 04:36 AM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

while the event AND the rewards are totally negligible, and the 1 loss required comes naturally WAY too often,

he is right about the message/tone this "sends". I rather have them set the wins to +3, than promoting what some will claim as an excuse for losing intentionally.
hard enough to get a "good and proper where 24' try their best"-match as it is.

[1453 R]

It's not great game design to reward bad behavior, no. You design your game's incentive system to encourage the behavior you want to see - a lesson Piranha could stand to learn much, much more thoroughly than they have.

But one loss each on maps you'll be sick of seeing by event's end is not really going to incentivize throwing. Nobody wants a cockpit item that much, and even if they do? It's a problem twice. There's also the idea that some manner of consolation prize that takes some of the sting out of defeat is not a terrible motion for competitive games. yes, the Winnarz won and should win the mostest, but this is a game. The losers still showed up and put forth their best* efforts, and if they played in good faith their time should be rewarded and valued as well. But...eh. Nobody cares about any of that when complaining on the forums, I suppose.

[SafeScanner]

i never really cared about the rewards they were like a topping on a cake

Honestly just play and don't worrie about the getting those 5 wins or play x map so many times the missions will progress naturally over time there is nothing wrong loosing to the better team give it 100% all the time and be happy you tried your best regardless of what happens

[FinnMcKool]

oh Crap, no matter what I do I just cant lose?????

[Alstren]

Oh its one of those threads *gets his pop corn*