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#1 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 08:04 AM

*rant incoming, better click it away now*


..and I'm more in the "quit"-corner for now.


tried a hand full of games yesterday, tried another hand full today:
every. single. one.
was horrible.
WAY worse than the weeks before put together.


either it's a hide-fest that goes on for an ETERNITY, only that 18+ out of 24 can't and don't break the 100dmg-marker-

or it's a nascar-fest rotatoe-ing their brains out - for what little brainmass there is left.


-how is this fun to ANYONE?
and on top, you folks doing the above don't get dmg/matchscore either, so if that's your grand plan to lootbags, then it's a bad one. just because there's lootbags to be had doesn't mean you have to play this game THIS BAD.
it worked "better" weeks before, so why..?



maybe I'll try in a few hours some matches again, but for now:
not gonna invest my free-time just to grab some lootbags but get dyspepsia and hypertension along the way. yeesh.

*sorry, but it had to be said ;)*

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 10 July 2021 - 08:10 AM.


#2 KodiakGW

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 08:29 AM

All you need to do is ask yourself is it worth 1GSP, a consumable, the Nth sub par war horn or cockpit item, or paltry amounts of CBills/MC/GXP?
Maybe one of the people defending SoupQ will invite you to group up with them so you can join them in their fun. Challenge accepted??

#3 FupDup

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 08:31 AM

It would probably be best for you to take a break for at least a week or two and either play other games or do something else entirely. The good news is that the loot event will run until August 4th so you don't need to poopsock it like the Cool Maps event.

The big brain move would be to wait until at least July 20th when Phase 2 is going so that you earn two bags at a time (Phase 1 and 2) for the same effort. Both phases end at the same time so you don't really gain anything by starting early.

Take some time off for your sanity.

Edited by FupDup, 10 July 2021 - 10:52 AM.


#4 Nightbird

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 09:01 AM

This is why I only play 10 QP matches every 3 months.

#5 Saved By The Bell

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 10:26 AM

My games several days where horrible too. 500-800 damage at enemy side, 100-200 damage in my team.

So bad that I started to check statistics on enemy players. I didnt like results at all. Matchmaker is crazy.

Ok, I played too many.

#6 Eatit

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 10:59 AM

I haven't been able to get in more than a couple matches a day recently. Most of the matches I do play seem to be very one sided. I see a lot of Hide and Peek, Hide and wait for your team to soften them up, Nascar in groups of three or four into enemy firing lines. I would wear my headset and try to coach but I get salty and I'm afraid I'll yell at people instead.

It's been painful. It feels like power creep has reached it's pinnacle. TTK is the lowest I've seen. This is all anecdotal and maybe your experience is different but this is what I'm seeing.

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 11:06 AM

That's only a problem if you wait for the team to engage to shield for you. Ignore your team. Drop in something that can hold it's own and put out some solid damage and it doesn't matter what your team does. You'll still get your matchscore.

If that's too tough for you, then yeah, maybe take a break. Loot bag events should be fun, not feel like a chore.

~Leone.

#8 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 11:21 AM

View PostKodiakGW, on 10 July 2021 - 08:29 AM, said:

All you need to do is ask yourself is it worth 1GSP, a consumable, the Nth sub par war horn or cockpit item, or paltry amounts of CBills/MC/GXP?
Maybe one of the people defending SoupQ will invite you to group up with them so you can join them in their fun. Challenge accepted??


that's the point here; I don't care _at all_ for the lootstuff, I got all I need in spades (well, could always use more easteregg-urbies and urbie-warhorns, but hey..).
what I "need" is to have a relaxing match of mwo, and they don't serve these anymore since event has everybody gone braindead (blunt, but true).


View PostEatit, on 10 July 2021 - 10:59 AM, said:

I haven't been able to get in more than a couple matches a day recently. Most of the matches I do play seem to be very one sided. I see a lot of Hide and Peek, Hide and wait for your team to soften them up, Nascar in groups of three or four into enemy firing lines. I would wear my headset and try to coach but I get salty and I'm afraid I'll yell at people instead.

It's been painful. It feels like power creep has reached it's pinnacle. TTK is the lowest I've seen. This is all anecdotal and maybe your experience is different but this is what I'm seeing.

View PostLeone, on 10 July 2021 - 11:06 AM, said:

That's only a problem if you wait for the team to engage to shield for you. Ignore your team. Drop in something that can hold it's own and put out some solid damage and it doesn't matter what your team does. You'll still get your matchscore.

If that's too tough for you, then yeah, maybe take a break. Loot bag events should be fun, not feel like a chore.

~Leone.


nah, it's not powercreep or ttk at work here; it's like 4people that play mwo like they used to in every match I see at the moment - and 20 people doing their utmost possible to sink their own ship in new and creative ways.
t5 matches from way back then look highly professional and orchestrated against the kind of matches that are the norm right at this moment. I suspect the lootbags are the cause, but hey:
it's still people that are the problem. ;)

#9 Meep Meep

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 11:25 AM

OP is going on like bad play in public games is something new or even unique to mwo. If its free to play and there is no bar to entry then that's an open invitation for ultra casuals to roll in and be ultra casuals. I can't think of a single free to play game I have ever played that had quality play in the public areas.

#10 Wildstreak

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 11:29 AM

1 - Figure out the 'system' for this event.
2 - Realize you do not have to try too hard or play a lot.
3 - Relax, coast with a few matches every so often.
4 - Enjoy less stress.

#11 Inatu Elimor

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 12:45 PM

Strange, I had well balanced games sofar and good matches. I guess it is "win some, loose some". Don' t loose your patience, your time will come.

#12 HammerMaster

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 01:27 PM

This has devolved into only a good game for the streamers grouping up. Get in there or suffer. I'd rather suffer than bandy with those slime.

#13 Davegt27

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 01:34 PM

I finished the 15,000 match score part of the event and opened the 150 loot bags

OP it was pretty brutal (i played all night Thursday) with many below 200 matches

the real reason I jump from mech to mech is I am looking for the Mech that is not under the nerf hammer

I stumbled into my Orion IIC's and started doing constant 500 dmg

#14 Meep Meep

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 01:50 PM

View PostHammerMaster, on 10 July 2021 - 01:27 PM, said:

This has devolved into only a good game for the streamers grouping up. Get in there or suffer. I'd rather suffer than bandy with those slime.


I have fun by playing mobile mechs that can function away from the group so at least if we die horribly I was doing what I enjoyed. I gave up on slow big mechs in pubs because they either leave you behind and you get swarmed or you get stuck in a big ball of mechs milling around doing nothing.

#15 Monkey Lover

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 02:56 PM

Whats the good of loot if you're not having fun playing the game?

#16 East Indy

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 03:39 PM

Take a break or just cut back. I know this game scratches those competitive/community itches but it's gotta stay fun.

This season has just been weird for me: 0.5 W/L, total aberration from my history. It's been all I can do to work with the team, share armor and hit my personal matchscore goals. Last season was frustrating, so...I cut back and stop after a couple. Had a dream of a match first try in my Yen-Lo last night and you know what? I walked away satisfied and enjoyed the evening doing something else.

#17 Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 04:03 PM

I find quickplay is super enjoyable when you don't care if you win or lose and pretend that the people on your team are NPCs and/or mech shields and just say screw it to the objectives and focus on dishing out as much damage as you can. As soon as you die, just leave the match, pick a new mech, and drop again. That way you won't even know how much you or your team sucked Posted Image

(not being sarcastic)

Edited by Telemachus -Salt Wife Salt Life-, 10 July 2021 - 04:04 PM.


#18 Flyby215

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 05:15 PM

View PostEast Indy, on 10 July 2021 - 03:39 PM, said:

This season has just been weird for me: 0.5 W/L, total aberration from my history. It's been all I can do to work with the team, share armor and hit my personal matchscore goals. Last season was frustrating, so...I cut back and stop after a couple.



I was starting to think I was the only one having a rough month at 0.7 W/L right now. Perhaps the second half of the month will prove more fruitful.

About half my matches (47%) have ended in stomps; slightly more stomp L's than W's making it really hard to rack up match-score and/or other personal goals (top damage, kills, etc.).

I don't mean to sound all gloomy here, just wanted to chime in and let you and op know you're not alone in this camp.

#19 ThreeStooges

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 05:34 PM

Just lrm it with the most lrm you at once. Lrm 100 stalker, rl 80 bwacker, ac 40 k2 or some other build where you do 40-50 or 60 alpha. Unload on first enemy in range then go off to cd and come for another one.

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 05:43 PM

every time a lootbag event rolls around, people suddenly forget how to play the game. they want their loot and they want it now and so they play in the most selfish way possible, failing to realize they would get their loot faster if they just played normal. this of course includes things like suicide brawlers doing rapid iteration and people holding back to camp/lerm while the rest of the team dies. the shortcuts do more harm than good.

it also brings in a lot of the weekend warriors who only play the game when there is an event. people who usually play other things when there isnt a fast track to free stuff.

best thing you can do is try and catch the tail end of the event, when all the instant gratification monkeys have their loot and are playing normal again. phase 1 and 2 will stack and you can simultaneously get match score and damage, and the event would take half as many games.

Edited by LordNothing, 10 July 2021 - 05:51 PM.






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