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#161 Curccu

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 05:01 AM

View PostNomad Tech, on 03 June 2022 - 03:56 AM, said:

I don't even want to get to Tier 1.. As others have said in the old days you progressed to tier 1 no matter who you were.. I got to tier 2 and it was not a very fun game back then, everyone played like robots, everyone used the same best mechs, no one spoke but the leaders and everyone was hell bent on winning like it was the end of the universe..


Also at those times 60-70% of whole playerbase was tier1 so matchmaker didn't work that well. From what ASH wrote end of last Year or so now it is other way around T5-3 is some 80-90% of playerbase.

View PostMeep Meep, on 03 June 2022 - 04:08 AM, said:


I 95% of the time die to frontal ct death as I try to get in one last shot and IS xl die on torso destruction anyways but the mechlab builds are ocd uniform cause it looks prettier. Fit it out how you feel most comfy. Posted Image Also your alts stats are not showing up on jarls yet. I launched out of t5 and t4 so fast I don't even remember what it was like.

https://mwomercs.com...ser=curccu+mkii

Probably gonna change to K9 with UAC5 and 5xSL after I get my 1st urbie fully skilled.
But yeah I think alt account goes to only urbies allowed account.

#162 Zeddicuus

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 05:04 AM

View PostSLxJoker, on 02 June 2022 - 11:20 AM, said:

...I should be able to have fun and enjoy life no matter what I do. If I make a choice to stop playing a game due to toxicity or Tier BS, pay-to-win crap, then I was forced to stop playing due to others encroachment on my right to play the same game


If you don't like the Tier system, you do have the option to disable it from appearing on the Home screen. That's what I did, because I honestly do not care about what tier I'm in. I just want to pilot a giant car stomping robot and go blast limbs off of other robots. Any red I detect is a target, I don't care what their tier is.

As for the forums, I don't care what anyone tiers is either. They can be T1 down through to Tier 5, if they're a toxic jerk, that's how I base my opinion on them. Everyone's tier means nothing to me.

I leave the stressing about tiers to those that want to stress over it. Just because it exists does not mean you're forced to go with meta jank in order to climb the ranks. load up that mech with whatever weapons you want and go have fun!

#163 Cherge

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 05:28 AM

I always get a giggle when Tier 1 people talk to people not in Tier 1 and say things like

"don't worry, if you'll improve, you'll get there!" and "keep grinding! don't think about it too much!"

Tier 1 isn't some magic holy land. You get there and say "wow that was pointless, these games are the exact same"

#164 RickySpanish

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Posted 03 June 2022 - 08:23 PM

View PostCherge, on 03 June 2022 - 05:28 AM, said:

I always get a giggle when Tier 1 people talk to people not in Tier 1 and say things like

"don't worry, if you'll improve, you'll get there!" and "keep grinding! don't think about it too much!"

Tier 1 isn't some magic holy land. You get there and say "wow that was pointless, these games are the exact same"


Not only that, but everyone in T1 is either a grumpy sod who doesn't use voice comms, or an irritating streamer who got carried by groups. God, it's grizzly up here. Stay with the LRM Fleas and bracket build Atlai, I say!

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Posted 04 June 2022 - 06:54 AM

View PostZeddicuus, on 03 June 2022 - 05:04 AM, said:


If you don't like the Tier system, you do have the option to disable it from appearing on the Home screen. That's what I did, because I honestly do not care about what tier I'm in. I just want to pilot a giant car stomping robot and go blast limbs off of other robots. Any red I detect is a target, I don't care what their tier is.

As for the forums, I don't care what anyone tiers is either. They can be T1 down through to Tier 5, if they're a toxic jerk, that's how I base my opinion on them. Everyone's tier means nothing to me.

I leave the stressing about tiers to those that want to stress over it. Just because it exists does not mean you're forced to go with meta jank in order to climb the ranks. load up that mech with whatever weapons you want and go have fun!

View PostCherge, on 03 June 2022 - 05:28 AM, said:

I always get a giggle when Tier 1 people talk to people not in Tier 1 and say things like

"don't worry, if you'll improve, you'll get there!" and "keep grinding! don't think about it too much!"

Tier 1 isn't some magic holy land. You get there and say "wow that was pointless, these games are the exact same"

View PostRickySpanish, on 03 June 2022 - 08:23 PM, said:

Not only that, but everyone in T1 is either a grumpy sod who doesn't use voice comms, or an irritating streamer who got carried by groups. God, it's grizzly up here. Stay with the LRM Fleas and bracket build Atlai, I say!


You three writing junk?

Tiers matter, as they matter in RL.

Not that is is ALWAYS good. The human greed pervert the good part of Tiers/Ranks/Levels etc.

But they have a propose and also in games:
Separating the different skill levels for best performance.

I am PISSED of losing a match by idiocy: was pissed of in T5 and am more in T1.
I am toxic to my team, as I want the best and they also, so we all DESERVE the best in a GAME to have fun!

Tiers MATTER and the more we invest on it and PGI makes it accurate, the better player-base you get, as they will nearly get what they can handle in matches.

After quitting to WoT 3-2 years before I was angry at the MM. In WoT they have nrealy a better system, but you see suddenly when a low tier gets in high tier and you lose soddenly.

What does not work in WoT, will work for MWO as here you are not a 2 hit die Vehicle!

And what I see in T1 is sometimes more frightening than in T4-T3.

There you expect the noobness. But in T2-3, nascaring, inactivity, bad blind builds, no scouting, THESE are the things you should be worry about, as these Tiers should be or reflect the reason, why one is there and not.

And except me, and a very few, all the T1s I see are polite and not even angry when losing (wonder how!?!) but that's the "personal touch". You don't know if they are the same way in RL to others. Being angry to ppl online is better than in RL, my view and living.

So despite being unfairly handled by the MM and Tier-System - which I would accept if you mind that in your posts - I can not tolerate your mails to be the icon of wisdom, and I am a Socialist at heart who does not likes Tiers .... and there I am to defend them !!!

Up-Side-Down world !

#166 Zeddicuus

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Posted 04 June 2022 - 01:40 PM

I suppose you can see my post as junk, that's on you. I really don't care what your opinion of my post is.

Personally I don't give a soggy sod about the tiers. If others do, that's fine with me. I play to have fun and I simply do the best I can. Whether that puts me in T5 or T2, I'll never know.

If you want to worry about who has what tier levels you're teamed with that match, you go right ahead. Sure, I guess they have a purpose, if you care about tiers and being competitive. I'm just willing to play anyone the game puts on the opposite team, and not try to treat someone as a lesser because they are a 'lower rank' than myself for whatever reasons they're there. You never know, they may be Tier 1 material, but they get interrupted frequently and have to walk away. Who can say?

So yeah, if you wanna worry about tier system, you do you. But you can't push that on others that simply want to ignore it.

So, do tiers matters? Yes to those that worry about that kind of stuff, no to ones that think like me. What matters in each case is, how does it matter to the individual player?

Edited by Zeddicuus, 04 June 2022 - 01:41 PM.


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Posted 04 June 2022 - 02:43 PM

View PostZeddicuus, on 04 June 2022 - 01:40 PM, said:

I suppose you can see my post as junk, that's on you. I really don't care what your opinion of my post is.

So, do tiers matters? Yes to those that worry about that kind of stuff, no to ones that think like me. What matters in each case is, how does it matter to the individual player?


ah, ok, sry.

Thought you mean tiers do not matter at all.

I didn't wanted to offend you personally on the view.
I am but very precise that Tiers are needed.

Have fun.

#168 Zeddicuus

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Posted 04 June 2022 - 05:44 PM

Not offended, no worries. Simply put, you have fun your way, I'll have fun mine, it's all good. If yours involves the tier structure, it's all good. That's what it's there for.





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