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#21 martian

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Posted 23 December 2021 - 08:02 AM

View PostNomad Tech, on 19 December 2021 - 05:03 AM, said:

Happened again today no idea why..
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View PostNomad Tech, on 23 December 2021 - 06:52 AM, said:

And it was right at the start of the match. i'm at 92% i had not even fired a laser.. I got hit dropped down saw the damage and screenshot it.

To make sure that I understand you right: You have not fired a single shot since the mission beginning and suddenly your 'Mech's CT turned yellow with your 'Mech's voice warning system reporting "critical damage"?

Edited by martian, 23 December 2021 - 08:03 AM.


#22 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 23 December 2021 - 09:25 AM

View PostNomad Tech, on 23 December 2021 - 06:52 AM, said:


My legs would have been damaged as well, nice try. And it was right at the start of the match. i'm at 92% i had not even fired a laser.. I got hit dropped down saw the damage and screenshot it.


You threw me for a minute there with the account rename.

And its not the start of the match, its 3 minutes in and your lance mates are all damaged.

Plus, when you overheat, not every component takes damage every time.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 23 December 2021 - 09:27 AM.


#23 martian

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Posted 23 December 2021 - 09:27 AM

View PostScrapIron Prime, on 23 December 2021 - 09:25 AM, said:

Wait... you're Mecha Gnome's alt account?

Name change.

#24 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 23 December 2021 - 09:29 AM

View Postmartian, on 23 December 2021 - 09:27 AM, said:

Name change.


Yeah, figured that out right after I posted, then edited. you're just too fast, my friend. Posted Image

#25 Curccu

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Posted 23 December 2021 - 09:52 AM

View PostNomad Tech, on 23 December 2021 - 06:52 AM, said:


My legs would have been damaged as well, nice try. And it was right at the start of the match. i'm at 92% i had not even fired a laser.. I got hit dropped down saw the damage and screenshot it.

Match is 3 minutes in your armor is all dinged up (Yellow, it would be same blue/green color as UI if it's untouched) Internal damage is probably worth 1-2% of your health, most of the damage is on your armor... maybe your beloved team buddies humped their mechs on you for 3 mins... that would explain.
Overheat without override does damage to CT only, with override on it does a looooooooooooooooooooot more damage and random locations.

#26 PocketYoda

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Posted 25 December 2021 - 04:06 AM

View Postmartian, on 23 December 2021 - 08:02 AM, said:

To make sure that I understand you right: You have not fired a single shot since the mission beginning and suddenly your 'Mech's CT turned yellow with your 'Mech's voice warning system reporting "critical damage"?


Yes it was very close to the start when i got hit we were up high and that was the result of being hit.. I did not even get a shot off i just got out of where i was after being hit..

My paper doll looked like that after i was hit.

#27 PocketYoda

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Posted 25 December 2021 - 04:10 AM

View PostScrapIron Prime, on 23 December 2021 - 09:25 AM, said:


You threw me for a minute there with the account rename.

And its not the start of the match, its 3 minutes in and your lance mates are all damaged.

Plus, when you overheat, not every component takes damage every time.


I name changed as i didn't like my old name. Not an alt and wasn't trying to hide it.. That said three minutes in isn't long in an assault it can take that much to get a good fighting area, believe me or not i don't care as there is nothing i can do to change the situation..

I did not overheat myself. and its happening a lot getting structure damage and no armour.

#28 martian

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Posted 25 December 2021 - 04:33 AM

View PostNomad Tech, on 25 December 2021 - 04:06 AM, said:

Yes it was very close to the start when i got hit we were up high and that was the result of being hit.. I did not even get a shot off i just got out of where i was after being hit..

My paper doll looked like that after i was hit.

That's very interesting.

The armor damage of your 'Mech looks like some unconcentrated LBX or missile damage or mayb some laser beam scarring the armor of your 'Mech.

However, the internal structure damage of your 'Mech looks very much like the internal damage usually caused by overheating:

(these first three pictures were made by me, the fourth one is from your screenshot)
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#29 Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie

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Posted 25 December 2021 - 06:33 AM

View PostNomad Tech, on 19 December 2021 - 05:03 AM, said:

Happened again today no idea why..Posted Image


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My legs would have been damaged as well, nice try. And it was right at the start of the match. i'm at 92% i had not even fired a laser.. I got hit dropped down saw the damage and screenshot it.


eh.. so just to get it straight:
it's 11:55, it's 3:0, and you haven't done a single shot yet..?




totally RELATED;

what's with the name change every so often?
I mean, I know what it's good for, but what's the official reason? Posted Image

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 25 December 2021 - 06:50 AM.


#30 PocketYoda

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Posted 25 December 2021 - 08:09 PM

View PostTeenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 25 December 2021 - 06:33 AM, said:




eh.. so just to get it straight:
it's 11:55, it's 3:0, and you haven't done a single shot yet..?




totally RELATED;

what's with the name change every so often?
I mean, I know what it's good for, but what's the official reason? Posted Image


I've only changed my name twice in 8 years.. Samial, MechaGnome (free change) and now.. I wouldn't call that so often. And i don't give a rats about Jarls list.. Its not like people can't look up old names..

Thats right i had not i was still getting to the action.. No idea where or who had died at that point. 3 mechs down isn't a huge shock in tier 4.

#31 Heavy Money

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Posted 25 December 2021 - 09:29 PM

I've started noticing that Betty will announce that I've taken critical damage when my armor isn't open and I'm not overheating. It seems to have started happening in the last few months, and never happened before. Sometimes happens several times in a play session. Lots of people I play with have noticed too. Perhaps just a bug.

#32 TheCaptainJZ

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Posted 26 December 2021 - 07:30 PM

This exact thing happened to me today. I had red CT and it started saying critical damage. I only ever remember getting the alert after armor was stripped. Could be a calculation bug for Urbies?

#33 Maddermax

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Posted 26 December 2021 - 08:51 PM

TheCaptainJZ said:

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This exact thing happened to me today. I had red CT and it started saying critical damage. I only ever remember getting the alert after armor was stripped. Could be a calculation bug for Urbies?


Not exactly. I think it’s just a calculation bug between armour quirks and skill nodes. It tends to be more noticeable in mechs with high armour quirks and armour skills (the Urbie is a perfect example), so I assume it’s related to the “critical warning” not calculating armour quirks being modified by skills correctly. If it was just missing armour quirks or just skills, it would be obviously off every time.

Alternatively, perhaps it just goes off when you have <1 armour left, so it still shows red on the paper doll. I do notice it more on heavily armour quirked mechs though.

I should note though that I have never seen this affect internals incorrectly, so obviously the “paper doll” and crit calculations are done at the correct time, it’s just the warning that goes off a little early, so really not that important.

Edited by Maddermax, 26 December 2021 - 08:54 PM.






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