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[ScrapIron Prime]

justcallme A S H, on 21 January 2022 - 12:46 AM, said:

Can you please point out which comparable weapons across the tech have these vastly longer ranges?
Or is this just another one of your "I'm gonna make an outlandish statement" moments?

almost all Ballistics are the same.
ERPPC are the same
ERLs are quite similar (and IS mechs generally carry quirks).
SRMs are the same
LRMs are the same
Gauss is the same.


I mean I can keep going and I'll wait for you to pull out the inevitable cLPL vs IS LPL or cERML vs IS ERML and then Streaks (which are markedly different for a reason) - but then you're only really clutching at straws bringing up a handful.

The actual facts the two tech bases share mostly similar ranges with only a handful that are different. Yours statement is once again completely wrong and misinformed

I won't even get started on the "clans have better" weapons, I know you wont understand that discussion.

Yeah, you didn't really need to come out buns a'glazing on that one. "vastly" was the only exaggerated word in there. We all know clan weapons are a bit lighter, have 10 to 20 percent more range, and tend to run hotter (offset a bit by more compact double heat sinks). The overall equipment advantage is why IS mechs get big quirks. Done.

[justcallme A S H]

Apteko, on 21 January 2022 - 04:51 AM, said:

> Which part of that is manipulating

"I mean I can keep going and I'll wait for you to pull out... ...but then you're only really clutching at straws bringing up a handful."

This one is a long time classic. "I acknowledge that my position is far from perfect, so I will try to present every field where my opponent is correct as something miniscule and not even worth mentioning."
What Ash wrote can be rewritten as "yes, but you're exaggerating a lot: not every clan weapon is better and range difference is not vast at all" - but such phrasing doesn't make his opp look that stupid.

And "facts" in bold - BOLD, CARL - gave me a good laugh.

> Some context for that.

Thanks. I've expected some feud there and it explains quite a bit, yep.

I'm not here to win an literature contest or anything like that. I've no doubt my sentence structures and associated could be better, I'm far from a scholar of language.

All I do is try my best to ensure accurate and true information is posted about MWO gameplay, mechanics, builds - everything really, so that all users can improve via various means. If I don't have the answer then I'll get it from those that do. Hell I've even spent many hours of my own time (and friends) to science stuff out if there isn't an answer readily available.

The user in question here (and about 5-6 others) are well known when it comes to spreading of misinformation. Making false/grandiose claims without any proof or data, despite regularly being asked for it.

After years of dealing with these individuals, and it's the same ones after quite literally years, my patience is a bit thin. Many users have tried many, many times to educate them properly. Provide information, data, stats, builds - all of it completely ignored.

So yeah sometimes I am a bit abrupt on the points with those individuals.