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[Dr Wubs]

caravann, on 01 March 2022 - 04:42 AM, said:

Only one model is allowed but the model has the hardpoint in different locations to give options.

One week later: knee mechs are OP. They killed my back-of-the-neck mech. Let's discuss how to nerf them.

[Dr Wubs]

Nomad Tech, on 01 March 2022 - 06:00 AM, said:

Nothing is as op as light mechs..

This is true. Every time there's a new event, EVERYBODY hops in their light mech to farm it.

There are sooooooo many new players who only play lights because they can't play anything else.

And there are so many old players who only play lights because they can't play anything else.

If only I had a thousand c-bills for every time a light mech pilot starts the match by announcing "OK, everybody, get me targets and protect my *** because this match is all about me."

Light pilots...pfft.

[Alex Morgaine]

Duke Falcon, on 27 February 2022 - 11:48 AM, said:

Game is OP. Let us talk how to nerf it!
+ finally not lights are OP thread! Give OP to a badge for this!

Generally say:
If one got killed by anything (falling rock, lights, heavies, Yondu Udonta) that that would call OP and for the universe's sake need to nerf...



Like this. The locust call the (well that) OP and cries to nerf it. Then die.
Oh, and give us Fire moth! Then tons of OP threads would born everyday.
Or give us the nuke Urbie and Wolf Dragoons would cry everyday.
Or give us whatever what accidentally kill someone ingame and cries and cries would occur everyday.

Let us face the irrevocable truth:
Life is OP! Let us talk how to nerf it...

how's about that nuke urbie

[Duke Falcon]

Alex Morgaine, on 01 March 2022 - 11:28 AM, said:

how's about that nuke urbie

A few days later:
Nukie-urbies are OP! Nerf them (+ give us orbital barrage fire)!

My vote goes for the Ur-quan kzer-za. Excellent to deal with Locusts (Lolcusts are OP! Nerf them! )

[KaptinOrk]

Mr Nice Mech, on 26 February 2022 - 10:53 PM, said:

Maybe JgX D A T A can make a series of YouTube videos crying about how mediums wreck his sniperWolf?

Is he actually being serious with his "light 'mechs OP" videos? I thought he was just trolling bad players.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

KaptinOrk, on 01 March 2022 - 12:46 PM, said:

Is he actually being serious with his "light 'mechs OP" videos? I thought he was just trolling bad players.

well, if you ever had the joy of a faction match with him, you'd know where he's coming from and what he's doing there. let's better not delve deeper into that, though

Edited by Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, 01 March 2022 - 03:51 PM.

[Weeny Machine]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 01 March 2022 - 03:51 PM, said:

well, if you ever had the joy of a faction match with him, you'd know where he's coming from and what he's doing there. let's better not delve deeper into that, though

Still the point from KaptinOrk stands. Put a very good player in any class, it would be op against less skilled players. You still need to balance for the masses.

Then other factors play a role, like what is good in FP doesn't need to be good in QP. Ok, that may not be true anymore because the Cauldron has done its best to transform QP into a pseudo FP with the same brilliant and total exciting trench warfare and sniping.

Also, generalization...when I read "light mechs are op" then I just roll my eyes. Just because some chassis can overperform, it doesn't apply to the whole class or does anyone really tell me that Spiders, Ravens and Jenners, etc are suddenly the überkillers?

And weirdly enough...none of your dude which you fanboys so adore and parrot has answered me this:

When the light mech class as a whole is so op as they claim, why has this class severely been underrepresented in QP all the time? After all the majority of players gravitate to what is perceived as "op" in online pvp games.

Edited by Weeny Machine, 01 March 2022 - 04:06 PM.

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

Weeny Machine, on 01 March 2022 - 03:56 PM, said:

Still the point from KaptinOrk stands. Put a very good player in any class, it would be op against less skilled players. You still need to balance for the masses.

Then other factors play a role, like what is good in FP doesn't need to be good in QP. Ok, that may not be true anymore because the Cauldron has done its best to transform QP into a pseudo FP with the same brilliant and total exciting trench warfare and sniping.

Also, generalization...when I read "light mechs are op" then I just roll my eyes. Just because some chassis can overperform, it doesn't apply to the whole class or does anyone really tell me that Spiders, Ravens and Jenners, etc are suddenly the überkillers?

dude, I'm with you on all those points.
I was just commenting on the "trolling or serious" thing, that's all.


personally, ANY of those "X is OP"threads that basically keep this forum alive and in an infinite loop are utter nonsense; balance is in a quite good spot atm, and never was horrible in the first place. and if it -were-, you could always jump the bandwagon and ride that "OP of the month" thing to whatever little pleasure you could get from that.
this game has other problems than balance; horrible matches (both on the win and loss side), being highly repetetive (read: boring, speaking of QP) and actively "sabotaging" all the modes that are/were less boring are the first that come to my mind, ymmv. also sth for a different thread I guess.
here, let's bask in the glory of OP-heavies

[Curccu]

KaptinOrk, on 01 March 2022 - 12:46 PM, said:

Is he actually being serious with his "light 'mechs OP" videos? I thought he was just trolling bad players.

If you read most of the stuff he writes and usually plays I think he is serious...

[Weeny Machine]

Curccu, on 02 March 2022 - 12:28 AM, said:

If you read most of the stuff he writes and usually plays I think he is serious...

...and it looks like he loves ERLL sniping and those pesky light mechs disturb his delight of this thrilling and engaging whack-a-mole

[Dr Wubs]

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You think I'm serious? LOLOL

[KaptinOrk]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 01 March 2022 - 03:51 PM, said:

well, if you ever had the joy of a faction match with him, you'd know where he's coming from and what he's doing there. let's better not delve deeper into that, though

I'm exclusively a solo, QP player and my stats will reflect that, though, I've been playing more MW:5 as of late; static, peek/poke gameplay gets very old, very quickly. I wish MWO gameplay was somewhere between mindless NASCAR and TurretWarrior.

Curccu, on 02 March 2022 - 12:28 AM, said:

If you read most of the stuff he writes and usually plays I think he is serious...

Weeny Machine, on 02 March 2022 - 12:51 AM, said:

...and it looks like he loves ERLL sniping and those pesky light mechs disturb his delight of this thrilling and engaging whack-a-mole

I guess that makes sense, light backstabbers are the closest thing to a hard counter to ERLLas snipers, especially if they're slow, assault-class snipers disconnected from their team.

Edited by KaptinOrk, 02 March 2022 - 10:01 AM.

[Weeny Machine]

KaptinOrk, on 02 March 2022 - 09:55 AM, said:

I'm exclusively a solo, QP player and my stats will reflect that, though, I've been playing more MW:5 as of late; static, peek/poke gameplay gets very old, very quickly. I wish MWO gameplay was somewhere between mindless NASCAR and TurretWarrior.

The same here. It is also so predictable...example from today. The match which came up was Frozen City. I said this in general chat and it was accompanied by negative comments from the other players

I said: Oh a snipefest
The shitstorm in chat begin and they called me out
I said: Phase 1 - switching sides
What happened...the teams switched side
I said: Phase 2 & 3 Sniping till a few get bored run over and get killed
What happened after 2 min of sniping? 3 of our mechs ran over and got killed
- suddenly the negative comments stopped -
I said: Phase 4: Enemy realizes that they have the numbers and rush us
We got crushed

As I said...so predictable in some cases (not all) but it just shows how dull this meta is. But it was amusing because they went through all the steps despite I said them before they did them

Edited by Weeny Machine, 02 March 2022 - 10:41 AM.

[Blood Rose]

Weeny Machine, on 02 March 2022 - 10:40 AM, said:

The same here. It is also so predictable...example from today. The match which came up was Frozen City. I said this in general chat and it was accompanied by negative comments from the other players I said: Oh a snipefest The shitstorm in chat begin and they called me out I said: Phase 1 - switching sides What happened...the teams switched side I said: Phase 2 & 3 Sniping till a few get bored run over and get killed What happened after 2 min of sniping? 3 of our mechs ran over and got killed - suddenly the negative comments stopped - I said: Phase 4: Enemy realizes that they have the numbers and rush us We got crushed As I said...so predictable in some cases (not all) but it just shows how dull this meta is. But it was amusing because they went through all the steps despite I said them before they did them

Its sad really, just how predictable this is getting. But hey, cant have any brawling maps, not even the so-called 'city' maps. Gotta have those vast, open, areas for muh long range sniping. Dont worry, its not dominating at all, brawlers can totally win, so long as they can survive to get within gun range.