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Cicadas Are Op. Let's Talk About How To Nerf Them.


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#1 Andrewlik

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 07:53 AM

Cicada's are so brokenly overpowered, something needs to be done about them.
It is a well known fact that light mechs are the strongest class in the game right now, because I can't hit lights with my giant stompy assault mech. They are impossible to hit, their 4 medium lasers have higher DPS than my quad RAC Slepnir, and they're tankier than Atlasses.
Cicada's take this a step further, by being a MEDIUM, having even MORE armor than lights as is, while maintaining the same 120 kmh speed limit in, addition to having the tonnage to mount big weapons like Heavy PPC + 4 HMG on the 3C, or quad AC/2 on the 3C, or UAC/5 (that never jams because of quirks) + 4 mlas (or effectively 5 with cooldown quirks) + ECM on the 3M, or so many JJs on the 3F it makes a Spider jealous!
How are LRM 130 Assaults supposed to deal with a mech less than half their tonnage?!?!
Just look at this video that DIFINITIVELY PROVES how BROKENLY OVERPOWER this CICADA IS!!!! Because this one situation in this one battle where it is strong OBVIOUSLY applies to EVERY SITUATION and its representative of EVERY CICADA
They're so overpowered that I am consistently outplaying the heavier mechs that dare fight me - I can spot a group of 3, poke them from stealth with a UAC5, then fall back once they're distracted, dragging them towards the rest of the team. How is anyone with any sort of brain supposed to play around this very obvious trap?!

I propose nerfing the 3C by moving it's ballistic slots to it's legs. According toLORE (because everyone knows lore is more important than gameplay), the Cicada 3C has machine guns in its legs to deal with anti infantry. Moving the ballistic slots down prevents it from mounting bigger ACs due to slot limits. It was never intended to mount bigger ACs because lights and mediums were used as anti infantry only so how dare they have the ability to meaningfully damage mechs in this mech-only shooter?!?!

Edited by Andrewlik, 28 February 2022 - 07:56 AM.


#2 Curccu

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 09:24 AM

cda-3m Stealth UAC5 is actually pretty hilarious troll mech concept Posted Image

#3 Meep Meep

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 10:28 AM

Cicadas are fun. This one is nice if you like sit next to the dire whales and shoot blue lazorz.

BluePew4U

Edited by Meep Meep, 28 February 2022 - 10:30 AM.


#4 Alex Morgaine

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 10:53 AM

Totality! I was in my dire, and a cicada totally blew out my head. I man it was stripped all armor to fit an extra ton of ammo, but still OP!

#5 Curccu

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 12:37 PM

Probably the best Cicada clip there has ever been in MWO



#6 LordNothing

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 01:08 PM

View PostCurccu, on 28 February 2022 - 09:24 AM, said:

cda-3m Stealth UAC5 is actually pretty hilarious troll mech concept Posted Image


i think id have stuck an lppc on the other side. but thats just me.

#7 Meep Meep

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 03:33 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 28 February 2022 - 01:08 PM, said:


i think id have stuck an lppc on the other side. but thats just me.


I ran it like this for a while like a bigger stealth flea-20. You can fire from stealth almost indefinitely or at least far longer than you would have the time to just sit there and pile on the damage.

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#8 Escef

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 07:45 PM

View PostCurccu, on 28 February 2022 - 12:37 PM, said:

Probably the best Cicada clip there has ever been in MWO




Still a classic.

#9 Hunka Junk

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Posted 28 February 2022 - 10:09 PM

Nerf all the cicadas EXCEPT the LRM cicada.

#10 Curccu

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Posted 01 March 2022 - 12:35 AM

View PostHunka Junk, on 28 February 2022 - 10:09 PM, said:

Nerf all the cicadas EXCEPT the LRM cicada.

Sadly they increased X5s tube count from 2, that stream was pretty epic for twin LRM15.

#11 Curccu

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Posted 01 March 2022 - 12:40 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 28 February 2022 - 01:08 PM, said:

i think id have stuck an lppc on the other side. but thats just me.
I'm not really optimizing purely troll build concepts Posted Image.
But as I hyped in lights thread few days ago, a bit similar build of UM-K9 with UAC5 and small lasers is really good for reals.

#12 Meep Meep

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Posted 01 March 2022 - 01:29 AM

View PostCurccu, on 01 March 2022 - 12:40 AM, said:

I'm not really optimizing purely troll build concepts Posted Image.
But as I hyped in lights thread few days ago, a bit similar build of UM-K9 with UAC5 and small lasers is really good for reals.


You can do that with the stealth build. It even goes urbie speed. Posted Image

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