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[tynyczech]

Are those publishers crazy? that they ban cloud gaming? it doesn't matter what you play ... especially when you buy the game and gf now is sure that it will not be pirated ... and unfortunately mechwarrior online is a poorly optimized game and needs a lot of performance ... it's a pity ...

[Heavy Money]

A link to what you're talking about would be good.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Um, yeah. What's the point of this? You can still play MWO if you have their hardware, its just that MWO doesn't show up in the apps you can access with GeForce Now.

[LordNothing]

the cloud ruins everything.

[Tarl Cabot]

LordNothing, on 08 March 2022 - 07:03 PM, said:

the cloud ruins everything.

And when it rains.. it pours

[PocketYoda]

What is Geforce Now?

[Meep Meep]

Nomad Tech, on 09 March 2022 - 06:18 PM, said:

What is Geforce Now?

Its a game streaming service where the game is run on a remote server and your own computer is simply used for display and inputs so it can be a total potato unable to natively run the games. Can be a bit to a lot laggy but more than usable for most games unless you want to play fast action shooters.

[LordNothing]

ymmv proportionally with your distance from the datacenter and number of routers.

[PocketYoda]

Meep Meep, on 09 March 2022 - 07:25 PM, said:

Its a game streaming service where the game is run on a remote server and your own computer is simply used for display and inputs so it can be a total potato unable to natively run the games. Can be a bit to a lot laggy but more than usable for most games unless you want to play fast action shooters.

So kinda like Steam Link?

[katoult]

Nomad Tech, on 10 March 2022 - 08:19 PM, said:

So kinda like Steam Link?

More like Google Stadia. Both are pay subscribtion services which run games on server instances and stream the video signal to you.

Mechwarrior Online was available on Geforce Now's catalogue between February 2020 (commercial launch of the platform) and October 2020.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Yeah, for a fee you don't need a good computer, you just remote in to someone else's good computer and play over that.

I'm not surprised MWO isn't on the list, honestly. It doesn't adhere to current software standards, so the lag introduced by playing over a proxy connection would probably kill it.

[Brom96]

I can't believe that people actually use such things...

[ScrapIron Prime]

Brom96, on 11 March 2022 - 12:20 PM, said:

I can't believe that people actually use such things...

Not everybody can afford a gaming PC. This lets cheaper PC's in on the game. Well... certain games.

[LordNothing]

recurrent fees can be more expensive in the long run than big up front purchases, especially if you have to buy special hardware for it to work. the subset of gamers that this will work out for is probibly not as big as one would think. geography matters a lot, it wouldnt work for me up here in alaska or our friends down under. even if you live in a major population center, you might be too far from the data center and you are really at the mercy for how well distributed their gaming servers are, you might just be in a dead zone.

buying hardware a couple generations old is always an option. living at the cutting edge or getting sucked into gimmicks like huge cases, water cooling and leds on all the things add a significant amount to the cost of gaming. or perhaps people are buying laptops, which really limit gaming performance and increase cost. people running 5 year old middle tier hardware are still able to play a lot of games. remember a lot of consoles start out with really good specs, but after a few years they are quite obsolete yet people still play on them and enjoy the games.

Edited by LordNothing, 13 March 2022 - 08:48 AM.

[Knownswift]

^lol.

None of the components you listed are the ones that are actually expensive.

Know what is expensive AF right now? GPUs, memory, and decent power supplies even at the low end.

[JudauAshta]

Knownswift, on 13 March 2022 - 09:17 AM, said:

^lol.

None of the components you listed are the ones that are actually expensive.

Know what is expensive AF right now? GPUs, memory, and decent power supplies even at the low end.

mobos and cpus will get more expensive as well next gen
as both amd/intel are going LGA

so expect pc gaming to get quiet a bit more expensive

[Knownswift]

Yeah I dunno about that. Single core speeds on the 2 previous and current intel chips are still pretty legit even at the I5 end of things.

A current generation I5 intel processor on the cheapest LGA1700 board is still well below the price of the 3060. I don't know how the 3050 stacks up. A fast NVME, graphics card, ram, and a really good power supply are the most expensive components in my 11th generation I7 intel computer.

But I digress, I just thought the other persons post was funny because he literally itemized all of the things that are cheap (other than high end motherboards and the cases in the you can't afford it section of microcenter) I also stream games from my computer on a regular, and other than reflex based online games it's really good on my phone with a PS4 controller on a moving train. I'd pay for an actual service if there was a data center near me and I didn't already having a gaming computer.

[LordNothing]

Knownswift, on 13 March 2022 - 09:17 AM, said:

^lol.

None of the components you listed are the ones that are actually expensive.

Know what is expensive AF right now? GPUs, memory, and decent power supplies even at the low end.

a custom water loop would have easily added an extra $200 to my build. i looked into it. and glowey bits would have added an extra $50 easy. that would have cost more than my mobo. i would have also had to buy a more expensive case su such parts can express their gaudiness.

the price hikes are coming to an end. scalper prices have crashed as much as 30% since last month. prices are coming down and gpus are available again. id still wait on those, use your previous gpu until you can get one. miners are starting to sell off their cards, so maybe consider used (the fans will be shot but there is always the option of putting a water block on it).

ram, maybe not use ddr5, i used ddr4 instead and didnt regret it. scalpers jumped of ddr5 and you were paying premium memory prices for stock performance. or you can get more premium ddr4 and probibly net a performance gain.

what do you consider a low end psu, 1kw? you dont need it unless you get a higher end nvidia 30xx series, which is serious overkill. i got a 750w sfx supply, and it was more than i needed, and i got it at msrp because miners dont care about sfx. so long as you are not going after something explicitly targeted by miners and scalpers, you are fine.

keep in mind you dont have to break any records, you just need something that can outperform the streaming subscription service.

Edited by LordNothing, 13 March 2022 - 05:38 PM.