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[Corbantu]

technopredator, on 26 March 2022 - 01:37 PM, said:

P.S: My second account is 'Ghost Of Kyiv 2'

LOL,

Why don't you use HPPCs in your build since your such a try hard?


I'm experimenting with HPPCs too, so this post is 50% jab and 50% sincere.

Edited by Corbantu, 29 March 2022 - 05:12 AM.

[pbiggz]

technopredator, on 27 March 2022 - 11:44 AM, said:

Actually I am, because that's not the case, so please stop writing troll posts or I'll have to report you. I rectly had a game where I got killed but made 500+ damage, mostly sniping with those 4 LLs.

Some posts are repeating questions and suggestions, I won't answer them as they've been answered already, thanks. I'll be posting soono another "ponderous" build, to check for yourselves how useless I've become to my team

Don't threaten to file false reports because you're being criticized. People here are trying to help you. There's room to make your builds more fun for you. You're being mean in response.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Its only Trolling and each Discussion a Waste of Time

[RefrigeratorRaider2]

pbiggz, on 29 March 2022 - 07:31 PM, said:

Don't threaten to file false reports because you're being criticized. People here are trying to help you. There's room to make your builds more fun for you. You're being mean in response.

Well your arguments are BS, so I thought you were trolling, so you're not helping

MW Waldorf Statler, on 29 March 2022 - 08:17 PM, said:

Its only Trolling and each Discussion a Waste of Time

Reported for trolling and defamation

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Ghost of Kyiv2, on 30 March 2022 - 12:49 AM, said:

Well your arguments are BS, so I thought you were trolling, so you're not helping



Reported for trolling and defamation

so we quit now you here with your Second account to help your First Account ...im feel deep sadness for you poor Guy

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[color=#959595]P.S: My second account is 'Ghost Of Kyiv 2'[/color]

you're just here to annoy you with your statements .... for you everything here but somehow idiots

Edited by MW Waldorf Statler, 30 March 2022 - 02:27 AM.

[martian]

Corbantu, on 29 March 2022 - 04:28 AM, said:

Why don't you use HPPCs in your build since your such a try hard?

I'm experimenting with HPPCs too, so this post is 50% jab and 50% sincere.

Heavy PPCs offer a different kind of firepower than those original lasers (as shown in the original post), but they would probably require the inclusion of some secondary medium or small lasers to cover their minimum range.

Especially if that Uziel is moving 50 km/h and can dictate the engagement range only with difficulties.

[Corbantu]

Ghost of Kyiv2, on 30 March 2022 - 12:49 AM, said:

Well your arguments are BS, so I thought you were trolling, so you're not helping



Reported for trolling and defamation

This man has a mental illness, and it's called reddit. <<<this is trolling. For it to be defamation you would need to have a good reputation that can be tarnished in the first place. Seeing the amount of self aggrandizing, ego stroking and arrogance in your post and responses, I wouldn't worry about other people tarnishing your good reputation, if you ever had one.

For the sake of keeping the thread on topic, thanks for sharing your build.

Edited by Corbantu, 30 March 2022 - 04:36 AM.

[Armchair General]

There have been various reports on this thread. To make one thing abundantly clear "reporting" doesn't automatically mean "punishment". Every report will be individually assessed. Otherwise please calm down the discussion or this thread will be locked. Thank you for your understanding!

[pattonesque]

technopredator, on 08 April 2022 - 08:06 PM, said:

Build: https://mwo.nav-alph...6fa08c1_MAD-4HP

Video: https://youtu.be/iCQKHw9-dYo

should up those heat sinks to DHS -- this one, from grimmechs, is faster, more agile and more heat efficient for similar firepower
https://mwo.nav-alph...e63412d_MAD-4HP

Also you should always take at least one jump jet on any mech that can mount them for utility purposes

[Curccu]

pattonesque, on 08 April 2022 - 08:26 PM, said:

should up those heat sinks to DHS -- this one, from grimmechs, is faster, more agile and more heat efficient for similar firepower
https://mwo.nav-alph...e63412d_MAD-4HP

Also you should always take at least one jump jet on any mech that can mount them for utility purposes

Also doesn't ghost heat because SRM2 instead of SRM4 like in OPs build.

[martian]

technopredator, on 08 April 2022 - 08:06 PM, said:

"self aggrandizing" Yes, because everyone exept 1 was trying to be condecending and demeaning to me, so i had to defend myself, and facts are not self aggrandizing, they're called facts and was honestly bragging to spite the trolls, that saw wrong despite proof of logic, math and video. And you only see everyone's side exept mine, perhaps you are also 1 of those that don't want others to succeed their own way. And clearly don't know or care for the definition of the word defamation. I'll not accept people with dumb and weak arguments coming and repeat them over and over to try to put me down, when they can't even reason the basics of this game; I listened to reasonable people that had a useful and intelligent comment post.

I would say that many T1 players present in this thread actually do understand the basics of the game.

If they tell you "you should up those heat sinks to DHS" or "you can do these ...", then perhaps their advices are worth considering.

technopredator, on 08 April 2022 - 08:06 PM, said:

Oh and for the people "worried" about how am i doing, and my Assault is not fast as a Light:

I can not remember a poster in this thread saying "Assault should be as fast as a Light."

technopredator, on 08 April 2022 - 08:06 PM, said:

Build: https://mwo.nav-alph...6fa08c1_MAD-4HP

Using double heat sinks would give you better cooling amd some spare tonnage to play with.

technopredator, on 08 April 2022 - 08:06 PM, said:

Video: https://youtu.be/iCQKHw9-dYo

Unfortunately you cut the Team Summary Score Table. I would like to see how the other players fared in the game.

[Curccu]

technopredator, on 11 April 2022 - 12:32 AM, said:

No I shouldn't, because I'm not going to clone your game style, I have my own, but thanks.
Yes I see what you mean, but in the match, what benefits the most, is to fire as much and as continuous as possible, and on high heat, low weight builds like this 1, the best is SH and as big as possible engine, the bigger engine for the number of heat-sink, first and foremost. I get to fire 3-4 combos: SRM+ML, before needing to cooldown, gives a lot of damage, and 'mechs usually don't persist their attack on me, which mostly give me more damage dealt than taken, but this attracts groups to jump on me, but if I'm supported by good players, specially other assaults, we take a clear and decisive advantage early in the game, which generally guarantees a victory, at least in my experience and tear. All thanks to SH higher heat limit. I prefer it this way, than to fire twice, only the SRMs, then retreat to cooldown

Grimm mechs build that Pattonesque linked has exactly same 1.4 ATO as your build means that you can shoot 1.4 alphas before overheating (not including possible skilltree bonuses). and then it's waiting to cooldown or coolshot. And it has better sustained damage and goes faster.

Your build also has SRM4 in the head that triggers ghost heat if shot within half second with more than 3xSRM6 launchers and if you trigger it twice it deals almost exactly same amount of extra heat (if shot with 4xSRM6 volleys) that you get having higher heat cap with SHS instead of DHS. If you are shooting SRMs in three weapon groups and don't trigger ghostheat then you can ignore this.

technopredator, on 11 April 2022 - 12:32 AM, said:

People have said it indirectly: assaults should have 60-80 Kph engines, that's a light sometimes, some Urbies go 40-50 kph or slower because they have big guns, seen them ingame on both sides, anyway, that's superhigh speed and super light armament don't like it, I don't build that way, all the contrary.

super slow lights are just bad medium mechs.
If you got light that goes 50, why not just take medium mech that goes 50 or even heavy or assault and have a lot more weapons, DPS and armor?

[Horseman]

technopredator, on 11 April 2022 - 12:32 AM, said:

Yes I see what you mean, but in the match, what benefits the most, is to fire as much and as continuous as possible,

Which is where switching to DHS would advantage you. MechDB shows you the heat dissipation for each build, compare it between the two.

3xSHS = 2xDHS. Review your build with this in mind.

Certainly, given enough tonnage you can substantially outpace DHS with SHS. That is not the case for your Marauder and only tends to be viable for laser-centric builds.

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'mechs usually don't persist their attack on me,

Because you're in Tier 5 and playing against potatoes. If you were playing against opponents anywhere near competent, they would use your cooling period to tear you to shreds.

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a clear and decisive advantage early in the game,

Brawl range - which your mech needs to make itself useful - does not happen early in the match.

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I always consider suggestions, and discard or accept based on their merits, I explain the decision process and its justification as my playstyle. People keep insisting I'm wrong,

Because your reasoning usually has holes one could drive an Atlas through.

[pattonesque]

technopredator, on 11 April 2022 - 12:32 AM, said:

No I shouldn't, because I'm not going to clone your game style, I have my own, but thanks.
Yes I see what you mean, but in the match, what benefits the most, is to fire as much and as continuous as possible, and on high heat, low weight builds like this 1, the best is SH and as big as possible engine, the bigger engine for the number of heat-sink, first and foremost. I get to fire 3-4 combos: SRM+ML, before needing to cooldown, gives a lot of damage, and 'mechs usually don't persist their attack on me, which mostly give me more damage dealt than taken, but this attracts groups to jump on me, but if I'm supported by good players, specially other assaults, we take a clear and decisive advantage early in the game, which generally guarantees a victory, at least in my experience and tear. All thanks to SH higher heat limit. I prefer it this way, than to fire twice, only the SRMs, then retreat to cooldown



I always consider suggestions, and discard or accept based on their merits, I explain the decision process and its justification as my playstyle. People keep insisting I'm wrong,

Not because people don't like it or their playstyle are more efficient to get scores/stats up and/or suits their goals, they necessarily need to by mine; they don't even ask me why, exept a few, but everyone at the beginning wants to "correct me", even when I have explained what's my playstyle and why, several times.

People have said it indirectly: assaults should have 60-80 Kph engines, that's a light sometimes, some Urbies go 40-50 kph or slower because they have big guns, seen them ingame on both sides, anyway, that's superhigh speed and super light armament don't like it, I don't build that way, all the contrary.

I took the last frame of the video, and tried to improved, this is the best result, but you can see the damage dealt and their 'mechs :

I mean, play the game however you want, but don't pretend like your choice to make your mech worse is anything other than obstinance

[Weeny Machine]

Scout Derek, on 21 March 2022 - 01:02 PM, said:

there is testing...

and then there is just throwing stuff at the wall to see if it sticks.

And if it is fun to throw things at a wall and have fun? Oh my goodness, someone could have fun in a GAME...that's...that's nuts!

[Horseman]

Weeny Machine, on 11 April 2022 - 11:14 AM, said:

And if it is fun to throw things at a wall and have fun? Oh my goodness, someone could have fun in a GAME...that's...that's nuts!

"Testing" implies there is something that has enough merit in theory to be worth a practical examination and some degree of structured approach towards both the build process and examination of its' performance. "Throwing things at the wall" implies a lack of coherent plan and just trying random approaches without a goal - much less optimization towards one - in mind.

[pattonesque]

I mean I dunno man, you lose way more than you win and you die WAY more than you get kills. Maybe changing up your builds for better ones would help?

[pattonesque]

this is all word salad so I'll just say: you're playing the game like some dude in pickup basketball who shoots nothing but half-court shots. It might be fun for him but it sucks for everyone else, even if he has somehow convinced himself he's doing valuable research. A more humble player can easily figure out some strategies or approaches like "50 kph Uziel" don't need to be tested to know that they're bad and detrimental to the other 11 players on your team.

[pbiggz]

technopredator, on 11 April 2022 - 06:29 PM, said:

Wrong again, I have demonstrated several times my build work well, when I have fair conditions, this is not pickup basketball. You have your head up your butt. You don't read or lack the brain power to understand, complex concepts, so lets end this conversation here

Most people run builds that work well even when they dont have "fair conditions". If you're relying on the winds blowing just right to make your build work properly, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

[pattonesque]

technopredator, on 11 April 2022 - 06:29 PM, said:

Wrong again, I have demonstrated several times my build work well, when I have fair conditions, this is not pickup basketball. You have your head up your butt. You don't read or lack the brain power to understand, complex concepts, so lets end this conversation here

your builds work "well" when your team carries you and you get to left click (poorly) on people without their firing back\

here's a complex concept: choose a build that works well in as many conditions as possible, even unfair ones lol