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[ionandman]

can not play
Game can't start

CPU 8C+4c Intel Core i7-12700, 4800 MHz (48 x 100)
Gigabyte Z690M Aorus Elite DDR4 (2 PCI-E x16, 3 M.2, 4 DDR4 DIMM, Audio, Video, 2.5GbE LAN)
Intel Alder Point-S Z690, Intel Alder Lake-S


official and steam can't turn on

Click to start the game Windows black screen

[ScrapIron Prime]

ionandman, on 22 March 2022 - 05:58 PM, said:

official and steam can't turn on

Help us understand. does this mean Steam won't start, or that you have downloaded both the standalone and steam launchers and neither works?

[Corbantu]

Have you tried turning it off and back on?

[Therax]

Known issue with old Cryengine games, read how to fix it here:

https://mwomercs.com...l-cpus-and-mwo/



also same issue, same fix posted here:

https://old.reddit.c...wo_game_launch/

Edited by Therax, 22 March 2022 - 07:16 PM.

[Mechteric]

Yeah but what's the video card, that's pretty much the most important part

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 22 March 2022 - 07:39 PM.

[ionandman]

謝謝
和之前發生的一樣
遊戲崩潰

發佈網址無效

GTX 750

Edited by ionandman, 22 March 2022 - 07:45 PM.

[ionandman]

謝謝
和之前發生的一樣
遊戲崩潰

發佈網址

GTX 750
new computer
old graphics card

[Horseman]

It's 99% what Therax said, follow his instructions.

[cazeral]

Borrowed from other forum threads, works on 11/12 gen processors

11th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-11600K

Step 1. Open "Control Panel" by searching for it in Windows search bar, by pressing the Windows button or key.
Step 2. Go to "System & Security"
Step 3. Go to "System"
Step 3. Press "Advanced system settings"
Step 4. Press "Environmental Variables"
Step 5. Create a new "System Variable" (NOT USER VARIABLE)
Step 6. Enter the following into the Variable name box: OPENSSL_ia32cap
Step 7. Enter the following into the Variable value box: ~0x20000000
Step 8. Now press OK.

[Corbantu]

cazeral, on 23 March 2022 - 03:35 AM, said:

Borrowed from other forum threads, works on 11/12 gen processors

11th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-11600K

Step 1. Open "Control Panel" by searching for it in Windows search bar, by pressing the Windows button or key.
Step 2. Go to "System & Security"
Step 3. Go to "System"
Step 3. Press "Advanced system settings"
Step 4. Press "Environmental Variables"
Step 5. Create a new "System Variable" (NOT USER VARIABLE)
Step 6. Enter the following into the Variable name box: OPENSSL_ia32cap
Step 7. Enter the following into the Variable value box: ~0x20000000
Step 8. Now press OK.

What exactly is that doing?

[ScrapIron Prime]

Corbantu, on 23 March 2022 - 05:37 AM, said:

What exactly is that doing?

It disables the OpenSSL code check for SHA extensions. Older Unreal Engine games have a bug baked in, and this is a workaround for unsupported graphics cards.

[Der Geisterbaer]

ScrapIron Prime, on 23 March 2022 - 05:50 AM, said:

It disables the OpenSSL code check for SHA extensions. Older Unreal Engine games have a bug baked in, and this is a workaround for unsupported graphics cards.

Unreal Engine?

[Corbantu]

ScrapIron Prime, on 23 March 2022 - 05:50 AM, said:

It disables the OpenSSL code check for SHA extensions. Older Unreal Engine games have a bug baked in, and this is a workaround for unsupported graphics cards.

I'm a bit of a laymen but isn't SSL related to network connectivity and SHA to message encryption?

[cazeral]

Corbantu, on 23 March 2022 - 07:57 AM, said:

I'm a bit of a laymen but isn't SSL related to network connectivity and SHA to message encryption?

It works.

Known bug for 11/12 Gen Intel with any current GPU especially on a new machine. If you want to worry about the terminology, do so.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Corbantu, on 23 March 2022 - 07:57 AM, said:

I'm a bit of a laymen but isn't SSL related to network connectivity and SHA to message encryption?

It is. OpenSSL is the language used for the player's computer and GPU to talk back to a multiplayer server environment over SHA encryption. This methodology keeps all the hit reg and things on the server side and helps prevent cheating. Its not perfect, and some versions of OpenSSL have major bugs with certain GPUs.

[LordNothing]

ionandman, on 22 March 2022 - 07:44 PM, said:

GTX 750

*cringe*

i gave one of those to my mom. it had so many power issues with this game. mine didnt come with a power header so it was really dependant on good power delivery from the mobo vrms. got tired of it fighting with the cpu (i think i was running a 4790k at the time) for power. ive since upgraded to a 1060 and then a 2070 super and the rest of my computer twice.

Edited by LordNothing, 23 March 2022 - 02:09 PM.

[LordNothing]

ScrapIron Prime, on 23 March 2022 - 10:17 AM, said:

It is. OpenSSL is the language used for the player's computer and GPU to talk back to a multiplayer server environment over SHA encryption. This methodology keeps all the hit reg and things on the server side and helps prevent cheating. Its not perfect, and some versions of OpenSSL have major bugs with certain GPUs.

openssl is more of an encrypted data pipe. its not a language, its a library (its written in c). it doesn't really care much for how its used, it just provides general functionality. it just guarantees secure communication between 2 endpoints.

its not by itself an anti-cheat tool, but it can be used as part of such. some of the known cheat tools use packet sniffing to provide wallhack and aimbot. there is info coming in that the client needs to know, like object positions within the world, but the client will only reveal to the player if the server says so (like when someone is holding a lock). extract that data from the network stream and you can use it to render an overlay for wallhack. this is also more than enough data to run through a pid controller and give you aiming solutions, thus aimbot. so you encrypt the data stream with ssl to make that harder to pull off.

the server authoritative model used in the game means you can never inject an invalid movement, such as moving faster than your mechs top speed or doing 180 snap turns, or firing faster than your weapon's cd, having infinite jump jets, etc. it really limits what kind of cheats can be done. if the server catches consistent out of bounds data, it will flag your account for moderation. everything has to pass muster on the server before its passed on to the other clients. cheat tools can still keep data within the valid range and still provide an advantage to the cheater. wallhack is passive, it only intercepts the data stream but doesn't corrupt it (data injection) and aimbot usually works through a virtual mouse driver and doesn't touch the client at all. so these can get under the radar of the server authoritative model.

pgi probibly keeps the keys rotating too, because cheat software is usually provided on a subscription basis, and they have teams of hackers constantly trying to break the keys so they can sniff the data and the tools can work again. its kind of an arms race, like any other cybersecurity concern. ive seen cheats that operate on stand alone hardware and remove it from the pc, in case the game developer decided to check the system for cheat software. it would provide ethernet pass through (probibly using open source router software) and also provide a fake mouse/keyboard (which a $3 arduino knockoff can do, i recently did something like that for my htpc so it could receive ir commands from a tv remote and pass keyboard shortcuts and mouse movements to the pc, which only sees a usb hid device. of course used for the totally legitimate purpose of controlling hulu). so all the cheating is done outside the pc. however thats only used if your game has really authoritative drm. arms race indeed.

Edited by LordNothing, 23 March 2022 - 03:03 PM.

[Tarl Cabot]

https://www.intel.co...ion-update.html

From Intel website. From the way it is worded, appears to be have been the most affected were games which were created with Unreal Engine versions between 2016 to 2018 than other programs. There are other games engines and programs but likely not in the number affected like the Unreal engine versions. ie, most complaints/issues were reported with those Unreal engines.

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OpenSSL* 1.0.2 beta (Jun 2014) to OpenSSL 1.0.2k (Jan 2017) contain bugs that either cause a crash or bad SHA (Secure Hash Algorithm) values on processors with the SHA extensions, such as the recently released 10th Generation processor. Both bugs were fixed years ago; however, any application that uses the old version directly, or as one of its dependencies, will fail. Unreal Engine* version 4.13 (Sept 2016) to version 4.21 (Dec 2018) contains the old version of OpenSSL, so any game built using those versions is possibly affected.

[LordNothing]

Tarl Cabot, on 23 March 2022 - 04:02 PM, said:

https://www.intel.co...ion-update.html

From Intel website. From the way it is worded, appears to be have been the most affected were games which were created with Unreal Engine versions between 2016 to 2018 than other programs. There are other games engines and programs but likely not in the number affected like the Unreal engine versions. ie, most complaints/issues were reported with those Unreal engines.

id bet that pgi hasn't updated their ssl library, perhaps at all, since their lead programmer left.

[Horseman]

Tarl Cabot, on 23 March 2022 - 04:02 PM, said:

https://www.intel.co...ion-update.html

From Intel website. From the way it is worded, appears to be have been the most affected were games which were created with Unreal Engine versions between 2016 to 2018 than other programs. There are other games engines and programs but likely not in the number affected like the Unreal engine versions. ie, most complaints/issues were reported with those Unreal engines.

MWO is not using UnrealEngine but CryEngine 3. Other than that, yes, it is affected due to using an affected version of the OpenSSL library.