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[Horseman]

martian, on 28 March 2022 - 09:13 AM, said:

Maybe additional missile ammo quirks? Since the 'Mech is designed mostly around missiles of various kinds, why not to make sure that it has a plentiful supply of those missiles. With cooldown quirk perhaps?

IDK, doesn't feel like a particularly flavorful quirk for the chassis and I'm not convinced it's so starved for tonnage to make it necessary.

[martian]

Horseman, on 28 March 2022 - 10:04 AM, said:

IDK, doesn't feel like a particularly flavorful quirk for the chassis and I'm not convinced it's so starved for tonnage to make it necessary.

Well, without knowing what variants and hardpoints we will have available, it is really difficult to assign quirks...

[pbiggz]

Novakaine, on 27 March 2022 - 05:13 PM, said:

This mech dad is extremely happy.
At 60 plus never thought I'd get to see my favorite all time mech in the game.
I'm overwhelmed thanks PGI!

You mentioned in match yesterday evening that you'd been playing battletech since 84. I was born in 94.
The art looks sharp. I hope the 3d model does it justice, and honestly, I hope the mech is good, because it looks like fun.

Horseman, on 28 March 2022 - 10:04 AM, said:

IDK, doesn't feel like a particularly flavorful quirk for the chassis and I'm not convinced it's so starved for tonnage to make it necessary.

Lock on speed, maybe target retention, fire rate, and velocity would all be welcome things for the Crusader to have. If they make it nice and tanky I wouldn't complain about that either.

[DaZur]

Because I'm a sucker for aesthetics... For the love of god I hope the artist in charge of animation doesn't make it waddle or prance and actually imbues it with some semblance of weight and organic bipedal kinesiology.

[pbiggz]

DaZur, on 28 March 2022 - 06:47 PM, said:

Because I'm a sucker for aesthetics... For the love of god I hope the artist in charge of animation doesn't make it waddle or prance and actually imbues it with some semblance of weight and organic bipedal kinesiology.

For all the faults in their art style, mechwarrior 4 had some of the best animations of any mechwarrior game. Those mechs moved with weight, they just fumbled the tactile feedback (mechwarrior 3 is king there). MWO, mixed bag.

[DaZur]

pbiggz, on 28 March 2022 - 07:35 PM, said:

For all the faults in their art style, mechwarrior 4 had some of the best animations of any mechwarrior game. Those mechs moved with weight, they just fumbled the tactile feedback (mechwarrior 3 is king there). MWO, mixed bag.

Agreed... To be fair, MW3 also did a fairly good job conveying weight and reasonable/logical walk/run animations. I especially appreciated the "lean" into turns... But that's the biomechanics geek side of me. lol

[Scav3ng3r]

Ah good, the Crusader. Maybe we can get the Stinger and the Wasp into the game now as well. Then maybe some iconic IIC clan mechs, like the Locust, Shadowhawk and Griffin. Hell, lets go a step farther and throw a Scorpion and Goliath into the mix.

I am still waiting for my personal favorite mech to never be made in this game, the Guillotine.

[Akamia Terizen]

Scav3ng3r, on 28 March 2022 - 11:06 PM, said:

Hell, lets go a step farther and throw a Scorpion and Goliath into the mix.

Much as I would personally love that, sadly Quad ’Mechs haven’t been seen in the video games since MechWarrior 2 with the Tarantula. I don’t expect that to change anytime soon, for better or for worse.

I don’t think MWO has or really could have the infrastructure needed to support Quads, anyways. I think even MW2, the one game I know to have had one, didn’t really have the infrastructure for it either; two of the legs were “arms”, and behaved as such, among other things…

[martian]

Scav3ng3r, on 28 March 2022 - 11:06 PM, said:

Ah good, the Crusader. Maybe we can get the Stinger and the Wasp into the game now as well.

I have nothing against those light 'Mechs, but realistically speaking, the number of players buying them would not probably be too high. I think that the MWO players mostly prefer more powerful 'Mechs.

Scav3ng3r, on 28 March 2022 - 11:06 PM, said:

Then maybe some iconic IIC clan mechs, like the Locust, Shadowhawk and Griffin.

I know that some players have been asking for those 'Mechs.

Scav3ng3r, on 28 March 2022 - 11:06 PM, said:

Hell, lets go a step farther and throw a Scorpion and Goliath into the mix.

I love Quads in BattleTech, but:

• they would be probably difficult to implement in MWO
  
• they would have limited viability in MWO

Scav3ng3r, on 28 March 2022 - 11:06 PM, said:

I am still waiting for my personal favorite mech to never be made in this game, the Guillotine.

While you are waiting for the Guillotine, buy the Grasshopper. The Grasshopper is a similar type of 'Mech.

[Scav3ng3r]

martian, on 28 March 2022 - 11:31 PM, said:

While you are waiting for the Guillotine, buy the Grasshopper. The Grasshopper is a similar type of 'Mech.

I have one, doesn't look the same.

[martian]

Scav3ng3r, on 29 March 2022 - 12:05 AM, said:

I have one, doesn't look the same.

Surely it does not. But is available in MWO, while the Guillotine is not.

Note that the Grasshopper is tall and lanky, while the Guillotine would have those wide shoulders ... I am not sure how XL friendly the Guillotine would be.

[PocketYoda]

That is one ugly Urbanmech IIC...

Edited by Nomad Tech, 29 March 2022 - 05:33 AM.

[Duke Falcon]

Anyone noticed that the Crusader's SRMs are missplaced?!
Perhaps PGI may be noticed to fix that before "the big release"...

[martian]

Duke Falcon, on 29 March 2022 - 09:14 AM, said:

Anyone noticed that the Crusader's SRMs are missplaced?!
Perhaps PGI may be noticed to fix that before "the big release"...

Keeping those SRm racks in legs would not be too practical.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Duke Falcon, on 29 March 2022 - 09:14 AM, said:

Anyone noticed that the Crusader's SRMs are missplaced?!
Perhaps PGI may be noticed to fix that before "the big release"...

That's not a bug, its a feature. legs cannot torso twist, so the current aiming reticle could not be used for leg mounted weapons.

[Horseman]

Duke Falcon, on 29 March 2022 - 09:14 AM, said:

Anyone noticed that the Crusader's SRMs are missplaced?!
Perhaps PGI may be noticed to fix that before "the big release"...

This is by design, and has been done multiple times before. PGI moves all rear mounts to the front and all leg mounts to the torsos.

[Akamia Terizen]

In fact, I don’t believe there has ever been a rear mount in the history of the MechWarrior video game series. Presumably this is to make things more user-friendly, or maybe it’s just a limitation of playing a PC game. Either way, compromises like these are very frequent in the transition from tabletop to video game, for better or worse.

Edited by Akamia Terizen, 29 March 2022 - 11:51 PM.

[martian]

Akamia Terizen, on 29 March 2022 - 11:50 PM, said:

In fact, I don’t believe there has ever been a rear mount in the history of the MechWarrior video game series. Presumably this is to make things more user-friendly, or maybe it’s just a limitation of playing a PC game. Either way, compromises like these are very frequent in the transition from tabletop to video game, for better or worse.

Not even MechWarrior 2 and MechWarrior 4, i.e. games that included functional rear-view cameras, had rear-firing weapons.

[Akamia Terizen]

Which is unfortunate. I would have loved to see a Rifleman or Jenner do their arm-flip trick from the tabletop. lol

[martian]

Akamia Terizen, on 30 March 2022 - 01:38 AM, said:

Which is unfortunate. I would have loved to see a Rifleman or Jenner do their arm-flip trick from the tabletop. lol

You must wait for the next MechWarrior game.