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[GRUMPYOLDSCRAPPY]

do you all need to hold each others hands to cross the street do you watch sesame street well thats all im seeing from alot of the player base if there is someone asking to be alone as they are stealth and trying to sneak is not an invite for you to hold thier hands ffs ive had enough for f*** sake i get people who will blindly follow me give away my position shoot me in the back all of that while im trying to sneek around like what the actual **** ive lead an entire lance of the map ffs is that saying something just what the actual f*** gos thru your minds are you deliberatly doing it to piss people of or are you to bloody stupid to realise your pissing poeople off

[ScrapIron Prime]

Truism... when lacking actual communication and coordination, the masses will follow the mech in front of them.

So... if you're a stealth mech and you don't want people to follow you... don't be in front. Just stand still until your team follows someone else, THEN go.

[GRUMPYOLDSCRAPPY]

ScrapIron Prime, on 28 March 2022 - 06:20 PM, said:

Truism... when lacking actual communication and coordination, the masses will follow the mech in front of them.

So... if you're a stealth mech and you don't want people to follow you... don't be in front. Just stand still until your team follows someone else, THEN go.

YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT YOU WOULD THINK ID HAVE TRYED THAT ALLREADY

[LordNothing]

i dont like having a shadow, especially when im trying to win trades. having a guy standing near by to block my duck manuver and running in front to block my shot in order to fire on targets outside of their effective range. pick a spot that's better suited to your loadout ffs.

Edited by LordNothing, 28 March 2022 - 06:32 PM.

[DaZur]

ScrapIron Prime, on 28 March 2022 - 06:20 PM, said:

Truism... when lacking actual communication and coordination, the masses will follow the mech in front of them.

So... if you're a stealth mech and you don't want people to follow you... don't be in front. Just stand still until your team follows someone else, THEN go.

I gone so far as to announce my intentions (to fly solo) because as the OP inferred and you propped up... In the absence of leadership the sheep just waddle forward assuming the person in front of them knows what they're doing.

LOL... I once demonstrated to my kid this pretense, I once ran the complete opposite way on Alpine and half the team followed me without questioning "why".

[GRUMPYOLDSCRAPPY]

DaZur, on 28 March 2022 - 06:43 PM, said:

I gone so far as to announce my intentions (to fly solo) because as the OP inferred and you propped up... In the absence of leadership the sheep just waddle forward assuming the person in front of them knows what they're doing.

LOL... I once demonstrated to my kid this pretense, I once ran the complete opposite way on Alpine and half the team followed me without questioning "why".

yh ive lead an entire lance of the map and an unknown amount of the edge also led players into enemy firing lines all the while im telling them my intentions of walking of map otr into firing linees do they even remotly think abouit it nah im just joking

[ScrapIron Prime]

scotch929, on 28 March 2022 - 06:27 PM, said:

YOU ARE JOKING RIGHT YOU WOULD THINK ID HAVE TRYED THAT ALLREADY

Well it usually works for me. Also… your caps lock key is stuck.

[Bud Crue]

scotch929, on 28 March 2022 - 05:24 PM, said:

if there is someone asking to be alone as they are stealth and trying to sneak is not an invite for you to hold thier hands ffs...

I've posted the following response to this sort of thing before:



Light: "don't follow me" the light then proceeds to turn right and follow the prototypical NASCAR path.

Other players: proceed to NASCARing as usual.

Light: with shock and indignation: "I told you not to follow!!"

Other players: -thinking: wtf do you expect? Because you went right like everyone does on this map, the rest of us are supposed to go left? Up the middle? Stay where we are? Walk in circles? If you have a plan, then share it with the rest of us ffs!

Here's the thing: There are like 10 players in this whole game that are sufficiently skilled to where they can turn the tide of a match single-handedly, end even these folks can only manage it in the right, fairly rare, circumstances. Chances are, you are not one of those players. The vast majority of us aren't even special snowflakes that the gods of chance occasionally bless with special deference. If you want to be such a special snowflake, then you better have the actual skill PLUS the communication skills to give yourself a shot; otherwise your complaint is just so much wasted air. I am seeing this a lot on the newest map. E.g., everyone, as nearly always, NASCARs to the right or goes into the center from the get go. Some comp wanna be solo goes left to "snipe" from the high ground. Within 2 minutes they are bitching that the team stupidly went right and they are getting pressed by half the enemy team despite being oh so clever /s and going to a place right in the path of the equally predictable enemy NASCAR. News flash: If you wanted a different outcome then you needed to call out your plan, with specificity within the first 10 seconds following drop, otherwise people are going to do the same stupid **** that they always do, and you suddenly coming up with criticism, or even a legit plan, that late and after the rest of the team is all out of position, just makes things worse and makes you look like a whiny little bi$%@h and no one should be surprised at the resulting shi7 show; especially you with your brilliant plan that you failed to share until it was too late.

[Corbantu]

I try to hug the ECM mechs... because their protective bubble helps to be inside of.

[DaZur]

Corbantu, on 28 March 2022 - 08:05 PM, said:

I try to hug the ECM mechs... because their protective bubble helps to be inside of.

MADNESS!!! Logic, reasoning and tactical application of game mechanics and assets has no place here!

[Turtlefish]

Alex, I’d like punctuation for 100 please.

[Lumovanis]

Corbantu, on 28 March 2022 - 08:05 PM, said:

I try to hug the ECM mechs... because their protective bubble helps to be inside of.

Yeah this was my first thought as well. I know when I'm not using ECM and end up on a "shooting gallery" map like Grim Plexus, Alpine, etc., I look for the nearest ECM mech to stay near so I can approach without eating tons of free LRM hits. I noticed people tend to do this to me when I play on Pirate's Bane or something, so I usually have to say something when I'm trying to setup backstabs so they don't follow me in and give me away.

[martian]

scotch929, on 28 March 2022 - 05:24 PM, said:

do you all need to hold each others hands to cross the street do you watch sesame street well thats all im seeing from alot of the player base if there is someone asking to be alone as they are stealth and trying to sneak is not an invite for you to hold thier hands ffs ive had enough for f*** sake i get people who will blindly follow me give away my position shoot me in the back all of that while im trying to sneek around like what the actual **** ive lead an entire lance of the map ffs is that saying something just what the actual f*** gos thru your minds are you deliberatly doing it to piss people of or are you to bloody stupid to realise your pissing poeople off

LordNothing, on 28 March 2022 - 06:31 PM, said:

i dont like having a shadow, especially when im trying to win trades. having a guy standing near by to block my duck manuver and running in front to block my shot in order to fire on targets outside of their effective range. pick a spot that's better suited to your loadout ffs.

My experience has been pretty similar:

Me:

• in ECM/Stealth 'Mech
  
• sniping with PPCs or GRs (so that enemy 'Mechs do not see laser beams) from the flank or from behind the enemy team
  
• targeting enemies who are looking away, so they are not quite sure where those shots are coming from

Some "friendly" fool:

• running in his non-ECM 'Mech across the battlefield to my position, so every enemy 'Mech can see him
  
• parking right in front of my 'Mech
  
• firing his single medium or large laser to scratch enemy 'Mechs for like 2 points of spread damage
  
• attracting the attention of the entire enemy team to my position
  
• happily running away, thinking that he "helped" me

Has anybody a smilar experience?

[JudauAshta]

martian, on 28 March 2022 - 11:49 PM, said:

My experience has been pretty similar:

Me:

• in ECM/Stealth 'Mech
  
• sniping with PPCs or GRs (so that enemy 'Mechs do not see laser beams) from the flank or from behind the enemy team
  
• targeting enemies who are looking away, so they are not quite sure where those shots are coming from

Some "friendly" fool:

• running in his non-ECM 'Mech across the battlefield to my position, so every enemy 'Mech can see him
  
• parking right in front of my 'Mech
  
• firing his single medium or large laser to scratch enemy 'Mechs for like 2 points of spread damage
  
• attracting the attention of the entire enemy team to my position
  
• happily running away, thinking that he "helped" me

Has anybody a smilar experience?

you remind me of shadow cat players, the most useless players in game. just farming damage and contributing nothing...

look at me i am ecm shadow cat with dual ppc i am so sneaky xD
not really...

Edited by JudauAshta, 28 March 2022 - 11:53 PM.

[martian]

JudauAshta, on 28 March 2022 - 11:53 PM, said:

you remind me of shadow cat players, the most useless players in game. just farming damage and contributing nothing...

look at me i am ecm shadow cat with dual ppc i am so sneaky xD
not really...

1. I did not say that this is my exclusive play style.

2. If such snipers are getting enemy kills or disabling enemy 'Mechs' systems (because enemy rear armor is weaker than the front armor), then they are contributing.

[Akamia Terizen]

Don’t knock the Shadow Cat players too hard. I’ve seen them nearly turn losing games around by themselves a few times.

I try to take a leadership role in my games sometimes and even got good results from time to time, but on the occasions I don’t, I certainly hope I’m not that guy who unwittingly exposes a stealth player’s position.

[JudauAshta]

martian, on 29 March 2022 - 12:07 AM, said:

1. I did not say that this is my exclusive play style.

2. If such snipers are getting enemy kills or disabling enemy 'Mechs' systems (because enemy rear armor is weaker than the front armor), then they are contributing.

if they were contributing i wouldn't be ranting about them...

[martian]

JudauAshta, on 29 March 2022 - 12:24 AM, said:

if they were contributing i wouldn't be ranting about them...

Shadow Cat snipers are not a new phenomenon in the game.

[LordNothing]

real snipers can core you out from across the map.

a shadowcat is more of a distraction mech. its charm is that it can annoy the other team to a point where they commit 2 or 3 mechs to trying to kill it. this gives your main force more of an advantage. when you see a shadowcat being useless, its because the enemy was too smart to take the bait. it really doesn't have the damage output with a sniper loadout to really have a large impact as a pure sniper role.

[Bowelhacker]

The Sheeple need a shepherd - who amongst you will take this role?