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[Meep Meep]

So one of the main ways to keep this game afloat is to entice people to drop some money on it but unless you are a noob who is just starting there isn't much point anymore given all the perks they give out in events. So my idea is to make premium time relevant to players who already have a large selection of mechs skilled up and ready to fight and don't really need the credit and xp bonus.

So what would entice you to buy premium time if they added or changed what it offers?

To start I think the option to block certain maps from your rotation would be neat. Maybe also a set of monthly events just for premium time users with unique rewards like golden mech skins or some such?

What would you want to be included?

[1Exitar1]

I would like to see Premium Time only count down when you are logged into the game. As it stands, it is a waste of money for me because of my work schedule. What I mean is, I get almost no use from the Premium Time; it expires before I get much use out of it.

I like the idea of being able to block maps. There are a few that I detest.

[cazeral]

Well certainly not allowing you to block a map, that'll just slow things down on an already depleted player pool for the matchmaker, although I do get where you're coming from. But imagine where 24 people all have differing blocked maps; never going to get a drop.

For unique awards, then yes, absolutely. Maybe a set of, or a single cockpit item that was never released again after a mech/pack was dropped. Decals, Customisation points that you can collect for patterns or colours. New badges etc. that show up on the drop screen roster.

A catalogue of hero/champion mechs you can collect tokens to buy with (same token as colour/decal)

Bonus time or % increase in C-Bill and XP accrual from matches, etc. etc.

Edited by cazeral, 08 June 2022 - 11:55 PM.

[feeWAIVER]

1Exitar1, on 08 June 2022 - 09:07 PM, said:

I would like to see Premium Time only count down when you are logged into the game. As it stands, it is a waste of money for me because of my work schedule. What I mean is, I get almost no use from the Premium Time; it expires before I get much use out of it.

I like the idea of being able to block maps. There are a few that I detest.

Premium Time only counts down when you are logged into the game.

Edited by feeWAIVER, 12 June 2022 - 04:22 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Just change premium time over to battle passes which have become the defacto model for most Games as a Service. At this point the monetization of this game is a decade old and hasn't caught up to the better models.

[TheCaptainJZ]

feeWAIVER, on 09 June 2022 - 08:13 AM, said:

Premium Time only counts down when you are logged into the game.

No, it does not. It may not start counting down until it's redeemed in game, but there is no way to pause it once it's ticking and it's always been designed to work this way intentionally.

The idea of Premium time was meant as a sort of "subscription" but microtransactions are how games keep money flowing since MWO's inception. Therefore, it would make sense to sell it in a smaller amount, like 4 hours. They can also make it "banked" rather than "active" to give better value and control over when it starts. That mechanism was already developed a long time ago so shouldn't require much work to use. It would actually be better to change it up so Premium time could be bought at the end of a match for MC since it's advertised there as a sort of "one-shot" Premium time purchase.

I'd say that maybe it would be more enticing if GSP were included but GSP is redundant as a currency anyway. Unlocking skills should have stayed exclusively XP based. Introducing GSP, another currency, was just overcomplicating it. There's also not much demand for GXP or Champion mechs that have an XP boost.

Edited by TheCaptainJZ, 09 June 2022 - 08:32 AM.

[Der Geisterbaer]

feeWAIVER, on 09 June 2022 - 08:13 AM, said:

Premium Time only counts down when you are logged into the game.

Nope

[ThreeStooges]

The only reason I don't buy pt is due to the fact it runs 24/7 and to mirror above much of that time is wasted since I'm at work,family stuff and so on. Since pt was first added to the game the number one complaint has always been why 24/7 instead of active log in only. you can't even "bank" it for later either.

The best thing to actually spend real money on is a cheap hero/champion since that runs every single time you use that hero/champion. Guess making a simple on/off option for pt is too time consuming.

[Curccu]

ThreeStooges, on 09 June 2022 - 02:08 PM, said:

The only reason I don't buy pt is due to the fact it runs 24/7 and to mirror above much of that time is wasted since I'm at work,family stuff and so on. Since pt was first added to the game the number one complaint has always been why 24/7 instead of active log in only. you can't even "bank" it for later either.

The best thing to actually spend real money on is a cheap hero/champion since that runs every single time you use that hero/champion. Guess making a simple on/off option for pt is too time consuming.

If premium time would run just when logged they wouldn't sell them as days and you wouldn't get 30 days with mech pack, probably just few hours.

At one point I was running premium time all the time for few Years. I still got Banked premium time (I can activate it when I want and doesn't run out before that) 1280 Hours.

And really premium isn't that expensive from sale you can get whole Year with less than 50$

PS. Doesn't champion mechs just give you small amount of extra XP?

Edited by Curccu, 10 June 2022 - 12:15 AM.

[Meep Meep]

This is why it needs a revamp. No one really finds it useful anymore even if they have the money. Reduce the price to $9.99 and toss is some perks that would appeal to established players and offer it as a secondary subscription type. One for noobs looking to advance and skill up lots of new mechs and one for the rest of us who are now the bulk of the active base.

[Curccu]

Meep Meep, on 10 June 2022 - 02:11 AM, said:

This is why it needs a revamp. No one really finds it useful anymore even if they have the money. Reduce the price to $9.99 and toss is some perks that would appeal to established players and offer it as a secondary subscription type. One for noobs looking to advance and skill up lots of new mechs and one for the rest of us who are now the bulk of the active base.

9.99$ for what? For months premium and something? I don't think blocking maps is good thing, it would make matchmakers work even harder... more like I'm starting to turn to option that we shouldn't be allowed to vote maps at all.

[frumpylumps]

I would add an additional first win of the day additional credit and XP multiplier for having premium on top of its usual bonus.

I dont like the idea of premium time only running down when you are playing because you would never run out and PGI would be more reluctant to give all the nice free premium time they do.

This game is the most generous F2P game i've ever played so I don't think we have much room to ask for more.

Edited by frumpylumps, 10 June 2022 - 06:18 AM.

[katoult]

Meep Meep, on 08 June 2022 - 03:51 PM, said:

So what would entice you to buy premium time if they added or changed what it offers?

A good start to entice buying it would be not giving it away in such amounts - as constantly nowadays - that you basically don't need to buy it.

[Meep Meep]

Curccu, on 10 June 2022 - 04:14 AM, said:

9.99$ for what?

Thats the point of the thread? To get ideas about what established players would want out of premium time? What would you want?

katoult, on 10 June 2022 - 06:19 AM, said:

A good start to entice buying it would be not giving it away in such amounts - as constantly nowadays - that you basically don't need to buy it.

Thats their bid to hold onto existing customers it seems. I have 130 million cbill and over a month of prem time and over 9000 mc just from the recent events with nothing really to spend it on.

[Curccu]

Meep Meep, on 10 June 2022 - 12:02 PM, said:

Thats the point of the thread? To get ideas about what established players would want out of premium time? What would you want?

TBH nothing I can think of, only resource I can run out is MC. I don't want anything P2W premium features to this game either.

[1Exitar1]

feeWAIVER, on 09 June 2022 - 08:13 AM, said:

Premium Time only counts down when you are logged into the game.

Not true. When I first started playing, they give you some Premium Time. I played a lot more then, but I know I didn't play 7 days worth of time in a week! This has happened EVERY time I get premium time. Example: You have 7 days of premium time from an event. In 7 days that time is gone, whether I played 3 hours, 3 days or however long.

[Knownswift]

I want free swag every month if you're going to get a subscription out of me.

Monthly reward + consecutive subscription bonus

[MrKillUltra]

In all honesty I think they should just have premium time on all the time. Why not go for a battlepass or subscription for free mechs or something (Sell premium guns that do the same damage but have cosmetic weapon effects, animated skins; all of these can be in a battlepass)? As it stands, a f2p player is going to stop playing once the premium time runs out and each match earns him 50% less. The amount of money earned per match is very easily spent on skill points or even equipment upgrades. A good engine upgrade can cost as much as 15 good matches (with premium time otherwise its like 30 good matches) and newbies aren't going to have many of those. I earned 8 million doing the mad dog event and spent all of it upgrading my rifleman to a XL engine and replacing the stock guns.

[John McClintock]

Meep Meep, on 10 June 2022 - 02:11 AM, said:

This is why it needs a revamp. No one really finds it useful anymore even if they have the money. Reduce the price to $9.99 and toss is some perks that would appeal to established players and offer it as a secondary subscription type. One for noobs looking to advance and skill up lots of new mechs and one for the rest of us who are now the bulk of the active base.

making PT give you 4x XP bonus and 4x c-bill bonus would make it a lot more attractive. 2x just doesn't really seem worth it.

Anyways, PGI has been giving out MC and PT like crazy this last year or so. I've never paid for PT yet they have so many events I'm on PT about half the time anyways.