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[Pz_DC]

Realy, when we will be able to select all those things and sell it as simple as we can buy it?! Selling tonns of items one by one is annonying! Is it so hard to add chopping cart to inventory?.. And even more - make inventory to look anyway close to mechlab so manage tonns of garbage will not be so painful..

Edited by Pz_DC, 04 October 2022 - 10:36 AM.

[D V Devnull]

Sorry, 'Pz_DC', but I am very explicitly against this due to the potential destructive problems which it would present. Let's say someone falls under all of the following...

• thoroughly does not like you
  
• is unwilling to understand you
  
• hates your choice in Mechs
  
• hates your choice in Loadouts
  
• thinks they are going to force you to play only their way
  
• is willing to punish you in any way they can to have their way
  
• gets your account e-mail and password
  
• breaks into your Mech Garage
  
• gains carte-blanche access to your account

...and having met all of the above, they could then use that Inventory Shopping Cart to suddenly sell off literally EVERYTHING you happen to own and possess, except for the few super-special variants gained from Mech Packages and/or earned from various Events which are specially protected from being sold off. Having such done by anyone to a current player would in most cases completely remove that current player from MWO in essence, and therefore render them unable to play properly because the Mechs which were wiped out from under them happened to be set up for their specific playing capacity. In terms of emotional impact, that player would also end up feeling a loss of enjoyment and an unwillingness to ever try again due to all their progress being destroyed by a single account invasion. (Seriously, maybe 0.01% at most of people affected in this way would try rebuilding after that kind of loss.) Your idea would essentially open the gates to many wrongful & toxic punishments by a small group of people who have a very restrictive mindset of their way being the only way, and don't mind if their actions end up destroying MWO's Community to the point of killing the game for everyone. I do not think you intended to create such a huge hole in things, which could subsequently present such a worst-case scenario?

~D. V. "this idea by 'Pz_DC' to have an Inventory Shopping Cart is far too dangerous to exist" Devnull

[Fierce Ferret]

D V Devnull, on 04 October 2022 - 11:54 AM, said:

Sorry, 'Pz_DC', but I am very explicitly against this due to the potential destructive problems which it would present. Let's say someone falls under all of the following...

• thoroughly does not like you
  
• is unwilling to understand you
  
• hates your choice in Mechs
  
• hates your choice in Loadouts
  
• thinks they are going to force you to play only their way
  
• is willing to punish you in any way they can to have their way
  
• gets your account e-mail and password
  
• breaks into your Mech Garage
  
• gains carte-blanche access to your account

...and having met all of the above, they could then use that Inventory Shopping Cart to suddenly sell off literally EVERYTHING you happen to own and possess, except for the few super-special variants gained from Mech Packages and/or earned from various Events which are specially protected from being sold off. Having such done by anyone to a current player would in most cases completely remove that current player from MWO in essence, and therefore render them unable to play properly because the Mechs which were wiped out from under them happened to be set up for their specific playing capacity. In terms of emotional impact, that player would also end up feeling a loss of enjoyment and an unwillingness to ever try again due to all their progress being destroyed by a single account invasion. (Seriously, maybe 0.01% at most of people affected in this way would try rebuilding after that kind of loss.) Your idea would essentially open the gates to many wrongful & toxic punishments by a small group of people who have a very restrictive mindset of their way being the only way, and don't mind if their actions end up destroying MWO's Community to the point of killing the game for everyone. I do not think you intended to create such a huge hole in things, which could subsequently present such a worst-case scenario?



~D. V. "this idea by 'Pz_DC' to have an Inventory Shopping Cart is far too dangerous to exist" Devnull

If some one is deranged enough to do any of that, they'll take their time to sell your stuff off. I think this is a moot point.

Edited by Fierce Ferret, 05 October 2022 - 08:03 AM.

[D V Devnull]

Fierce Ferret, on 05 October 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

If some one is deranged enough to do any of that, they'll take their time to sell your stuff off. I think this is a moot point.

This is far from moot, and what I mentioned up above was done by people who were into instant gratification at another's expense. I found out fourth-hand of this happening to others on another MMO and was never directly involved in any way, but certainly do not want it happening to people on MWO ever at any time. Until the other MMO started implementing added security measures (which were still possible to be attacked through both social engineering and other methods anyway) to counter how quickly things could be affected, player accounts were being instantly nuked by malicious actors. If our beloved MWO's Accounts Database(s) ever happens to get hacked/stolen/copied by malicious actors of a similar kind, the fallout would be very devastating. So please trust that I know well enough how badly horrid an Inventory Shopping Cart idea like this would be to implement. There is literally no question that MWO would disintegrate fast after this idea's implementation, and many people would lose everything they have worked a very long time for. I am merely the warning alarm here trying to prevent those bad things happening, and never part of the problem!

~D. V. "malicious actors must never be underestimated after another MMO's accounts being plagued this way" Devnull

[martian]

Pz_DC, on 04 October 2022 - 10:28 AM, said:

Realy, when we will be able to select all those things and sell it as simple as we can buy it?! Selling tonns of items one by one is annonying! Is it so hard to add chopping cart to inventory?.. And even more - make inventory to look anyway close to mechlab so manage tonns of garbage will not be so painful..

D V Devnull, on 04 October 2022 - 11:54 AM, said:

Sorry, 'Pz_DC', but I am very explicitly against this due to the potential destructive problems which it would present.
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Fierce Ferret, on 05 October 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

If some one is deranged enough to do any of that, they'll take their time to sell your stuff off. I think this is a moot point.

Gentlemen, I am sorry for my stupid question, but it is actually possible to sell items en bloc.

I just go to the Inventory and click on the item that I wish to sell (Small laser in this case):



Then I click on the small button - I marked it with the red colour - and I can sell forty lasers en bloc.


So what have I missed, please?

[D V Devnull]

martian, on 05 October 2022 - 01:11 PM, said:

Gentlemen, I am sorry for my stupid question, but it is actually possible to sell items en bloc.

I just go to the Inventory and click on the item that I wish to sell (Small laser in this case):



Then I click on the small button - I marked it with the red colour - and I can sell forty lasers en bloc.


So what have I missed, please?

Those who are in support of this horribly bad idea are wanting to take it the rest of the way, without regard to the kind of consequences which would send MWO's population spiraling towards total non-existence forever. Making that a reality would also have the dangerous & devastating problem of allowing a malicious actor to literally sell off your whole inventory in one shot. That's why this awful Inventory Shopping Cart Idea needs to explicitly NEVER happen, particularly since the In-Game Store Shopping Cart for purchasing already heavily restricts how fast anyone can acquire anything to rebuild after being destroyed in that manner. Any further than we are at right now is bad, and the Inventory should maybe receive some restrictions or a PIN System to protect it against mass sell-offs happening!

~D. V. "Those wanting an Inventory Shopping Cart would send us down a horrifying path of no return." Devnull

[Fierce Ferret]

"Gentlemen, I am sorry for my stupid question"

*smack! *smack!

Okay, you're good =P