Jump to content

Windshield Wipers?


33 replies to this topic

#1 Buster Machine 0

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • CS 2021 Bronze Champ
  • CS 2021 Bronze Champ
  • 224 posts
  • LocationRepping TharHes Industries on a laptop

Posted 25 January 2023 - 06:40 PM

The implementation of windshield wipers and windshield debris would be the most influential improvement to immersion and gameplay in the history of Mechwarrior.

The novel implementation of windshield wipers would have these following effects on gameplay as far as I can tell.

1. Atmospheric effects of different biomes influencing player controls adding a unique control feel to each map.
2. Rounds impacting terrain creating debris splatters rewarding proper suppression, shot height placement, and terrain shots.
3. Weakening of the weapon height meta allowing mechs with lower mounted weapons to at least get some suppression when fighting a high mount mech.
4. Weakening of the laser meta and adding to the value of projectile based weaponry from suppression effects.
5. Increasing the value of UAVs allowing the suppression of mechs that are close to exposing.
6. Visible damage to the windshield after structure is exposed rewarding cockpit shots and discouraging unarmored cockpits.
7. Forcing pilots to be more careful with terrain as crashing facefirst into a dirt wall or snowbanks could obscure vision.
8. Making floodlights useful for visibility.
9. Lance mech diversification actually being a good thing.
10. Manual control of the wipers at the highest levels of play for timed clarity when exposing.

It doesn't matter if it's some futuristic clan auto wipers, adjustable speed wipers, manual wipers, or all of the above, any implementation of wipers and debris would be a huge improvement to the immersion and feel of Mechwarrior.

I do realize PGI is most likely unwilling or unable to fulfil any community suggestions, but as a lifelong fan of the franchise it is worth hoping that someone that cares will hear our calls eventually.

Inb4 Mechwarrior turn signals, griefy mechwarrior horns, or options checkbox autowipers.

- A Mech Simulator Pilot

#2 sycocys

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Moderate Giver
  • Moderate Giver
  • 7,698 posts

Posted 25 January 2023 - 08:33 PM

I don't see how it would have any affect one way or the other on hardpoint location metas, everyone is at the same disadvantage in your scenario.

Also it's probably something you could implement in the MW5 system, just need to badger them until they (or a modder with some network programming skill) moves the game over there.

#3 LordNothing

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Ace Of Spades
  • Ace Of Spades
  • 17,689 posts

Posted 25 January 2023 - 10:20 PM

as much as i like the idea of a hard realism mech game, this arena shooter would be a poor pick for this kind of feature.

first id want natural terrain.
id want a control system that makes joysticks viable.
then id want more realistic jump jet implementation with controllable thrust vectoring.
then id want actuators that respect the laws of physics.
then id want an mwll style electronic warfare system.
then id want a more viable time of day system complete with night vision modes that dont suck.
then add headlights.
then a dynamic weather system.
then deformable terrain that can splatter your cockpit with mud when someone lobs a shell at the nearby dirt.
then maybe wipers start to make sense.

game would need to be a completely different game first.

Edited by LordNothing, 26 January 2023 - 04:39 PM.


#4 Curccu

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Liquid Metal
  • Liquid Metal
  • 4,623 posts

Posted 25 January 2023 - 10:40 PM

Sounds nice....

... For a single player game, for this arena shooter I would hate pretty much all of those things OP proposed and oh yeah I have my cockpit glass disabled because it is annoying.

#5 crazytimes

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Ace Of Spades
  • 1,414 posts

Posted 25 January 2023 - 10:47 PM

I would be happy with any kind of progress at all in terms of new content, rather than releasing old mechs with new paint, or putting more invisible walls on old maps, or slightly tweaking weapon and armour values.

But yeah, windscreen wipers should be real high up the list.

#6 KursedVixen

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Wolf
  • The Wolf
  • 3,590 posts
  • LocationLook at my Arctic Wolf. Closer... Closer...

Posted 26 January 2023 - 08:54 AM

i don't think any of this can be done since the engine is old....

#7 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:06 AM

this feature would be really nice. everything that makes this game realistic is good.

#8 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:21 AM

I wish there was rain on a map. cryengine is very good at this.








an underwater map would be really nice too :)



this is a good example



#9 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:32 AM



this is the entry i want :)

#10 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:44 AM

https://youtu.be/qI4IsxAu4X0?t=106

I compare the swords in the game to the swords in the movie :)

It could actually be a good season. if well planned.

#11 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 26 January 2023 - 11:07 AM

I think it would be nice with darker maps and lights.A little difficulty is nice.

#12 CptJudas

    Member

  • PipPip
  • The Tip of the Spear
  • The Tip of the Spear
  • 22 posts

Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:59 PM

This is, without doubt, the best thing Ive read all day

#13 LordNothing

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Ace Of Spades
  • Ace Of Spades
  • 17,689 posts

Posted 26 January 2023 - 04:47 PM

View PostTAMTAMBABY, on 26 January 2023 - 10:44 AM, said:

https://youtu.be/qI4IsxAu4X0?t=106

I compare the swords in the game to the swords in the movie Posted Image

It could actually be a good season. if well planned.


we used to have dynamic day/night. but it caused performance issues and they turned it off. i think they should have set it up where you just randomly set the time at start and keep it there so it didnt have to re-draw the g-buffer every frame. but the pgi solution was to just disable the feature.

mwll got this right. especially that map on the asteroid that spins so fast you alternate between a fridged cold map and a steaming hot map several times through the match. complete with pools of liquid that would freeze and thaw with the cycle. that was something impressive. it was also low gravity and you could do some good flying on jjs.

Edited by LordNothing, 26 January 2023 - 04:48 PM.


#14 LordNothing

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Ace Of Spades
  • Ace Of Spades
  • 17,689 posts

Posted 26 January 2023 - 04:50 PM

View PostKursedVixen, on 26 January 2023 - 08:54 AM, said:

i don't think any of this can be done since the engine is old....


people work on old cars. people refurbish old mini computers. people make their own game boy games now. i mean just because its old doesn't mean you cant work with it.

#15 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 27 January 2023 - 12:42 PM

View PostLordNothing, on 26 January 2023 - 04:50 PM, said:


people work on old cars. people refurbish old mini computers. people make their own game boy games now. i mean just because its old doesn't mean you cant work with it.



A lot of things can be done on cryengine difficult but doable.

time has changed. used to be when the game debuted. computers are old.

is that so now?

#16 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 27 January 2023 - 12:45 PM

users give a lot of advice but no one hears. no one is listening.

#17 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 27 January 2023 - 01:00 PM

Posted Image

I think these eyes deserve better.
I would love to see it on an inspiring map underwater.

Posted Image

#18 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 27 January 2023 - 01:03 PM

dreams dreams dreams

https://en.wikipedia.../wiki/Megalodon

#19 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 27 January 2023 - 01:21 PM



#20 BLACKR0SE

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Meta
  • The Meta
  • 1,394 posts
  • Facebook: Link
  • LocationTurkey/Sivas

Posted 27 January 2023 - 02:08 PM

but this is a fact. Even cryengine 3 is hard to find. . There is the latest version.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users