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#1 Storky

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 01:16 AM

Played around 7 games yesterday on heavy mechs and was cockpit killed 3 times. Smth has changed?
In hundreds of sorties 2 years ago i was cockpit killed just a couple of times.

P.S. How to test my VOIP?

#2 LordNothing

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 05:14 AM

lots of players have found out that headshots are not impossible, i recently got my 100 headshots cheevo, and since many of us have been playing this game for almost 10 years they are looking for new things to do. headshots kind of fill that role. pokemechs wasn't gonna last forever.

if you want to avoid headshots, dont sit still and dont shutdown.

Edited by LordNothing, 28 March 2023 - 05:16 AM.


#3 LordNothing

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 02:54 PM

there are mechs that put the cockpit at center mass, timbies, marauders, dires, and the like. i headshot a lot of those on accident, just from aiming for the middle torso. give the enemy a bullseye and they will aim for it.

Edited by LordNothing, 28 March 2023 - 02:56 PM.


#4 sycocys

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 05:02 PM

The abundance of PPCs/MRMs/ATMs doesn't hurt either. More or less automatic spread damage.

#5 Heavy Money

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 08:31 PM

View Postsycocys, on 28 March 2023 - 05:02 PM, said:

The abundance of PPCs/MRMs/ATMs doesn't hurt either. More or less automatic spread damage.


Only Snubs and cERPPCs have splash damage, and it cannot splash the cockpit.

MRMs and ATMs are very unlikely to every cockpit anything.

#6 LordNothing

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 09:00 PM

roll the dice a thousand times and you will get some of the numbers you want.

#7 Tromoskyon Rex

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 10:37 PM

Some jerk made a bunch of montages of getting headshots on reddit and a few people seem to have started trying for them more often. I got hit with one once my first year of playing and have been hit two or three times since posting them.

View Postsycocys, on 28 March 2023 - 05:02 PM, said:

The abundance of PPCs/MRMs/ATMs doesn't hurt either. More or less automatic spread damage.


A headshot takes up to 42 damage and a minimum of 21. Id be willing to bet next to no one is getting them because of spread missile weapons. Even with an LBX on a stationary mech it takes multiple tries.

View PostLordNothing, on 28 March 2023 - 05:14 AM, said:

if you want to avoid headshots, dont sit still and dont shutdown.


Don't listen to this guy. Stand still more. Staring contests are highly encouraged.

#8 PocketYoda

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Posted 28 March 2023 - 11:56 PM

Hacks are a thing, people will say other wise.. this game has had so many ban waves even with big names.. So don't let them say its all skill.. its not a good chunk of the time.

Its something you must deal with with online gaming.

#9 LordNothing

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Posted 29 March 2023 - 09:58 AM

View PostOrion_, on 28 March 2023 - 10:37 PM, said:

Don't listen to this guy. Stand still more. Staring contests are highly encouraged.


i may have been in error. so yea stand completely still. im sure you will be fine.

#10 sycocys

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Posted 29 March 2023 - 02:57 PM

View PostOrion_, on 28 March 2023 - 10:37 PM, said:

Some jerk made a bunch of montages of getting headshots on reddit and a few people seem to have started trying for them more often. I got hit with one once my first year of playing and have been hit two or three times since posting them.



A headshot takes up to 42 damage and a minimum of 21. Id be willing to bet next to no one is getting them because of spread missile weapons. Even with an LBX on a stationary mech it takes multiple tries.



Don't listen to this guy. Stand still more. Staring contests are highly encouraged.

I've gotten several recently with using pretty much nothing but spread weapons - none with the lasers. PPC and LBX is a bit more consistent in putting damage in the cockpit area than missiles but srms and mrms will often more than happily do the job if you are trying to put your damage onto st's. Reckon the spread from PPCs is probably the most reliable at putting damage to cockpits and with the way a lot of people drop armor its not hard for the cockpit to drop before the torsos.

#11 Tromoskyon Rex

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Posted 29 March 2023 - 05:51 PM

View Postsycocys, on 29 March 2023 - 02:57 PM, said:

I've gotten several recently with using pretty much nothing but spread weapons - none with the lasers.


Ive only recently started using lasers and honestly it is much more comical getting them knowing that the enemy not only was standing there staring but also that they did so for the full burn time while it was hitting their face.

I guess Im just bad with missiles but TBF that is something Ive needed to admit for a while lol. The velocity and lead mess me up because I never use them. I really don't think the splash damage from PPC is a significant factor though. I tried PPC, ERPPC, and HPPC when getting Guillotine and the only consistent ones were ERPPC and HPPC with direct hits. IIRC from old patch notes the splash damage is only like 3 damage as well.

I admittedly understand little about the mechanic so maybe I just can't exploit it well enough. In getting over 1000 cockpits though not one was without a direct shot. Again though, just because I haven't done it doesn't mean it is impossible, especially if you're doing it consistently.

#12 feeWAIVER

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Posted 29 March 2023 - 06:46 PM

View Postsycocys, on 29 March 2023 - 02:57 PM, said:

Reckon the spread from PPCs is probably the most reliable at putting damage to cockpits and with the way a lot of people drop armor its not hard for the cockpit to drop before the torsos.


No, as far as I know, if you hit CT with a ppc, the spread will hit both shoulders.
If you hit a shoulder, the spread will hit the adjacent CT and arm.

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Posted 30 March 2023 - 03:51 AM

View PostfeeWAIVER, on 29 March 2023 - 06:46 PM, said:

No, as far as I know, if you hit CT with a ppc, the spread will hit both shoulders.
If you hit a shoulder, the spread will hit the adjacent CT and arm.

Could be, if that's the case I was getting some good shots off with them. I just assumed it was a proximity thing - closer to the cockpit it went there, to the st then it went there - or a ct would spread low damage to all the adjacent.

#14 kalashnikity

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Posted 30 March 2023 - 08:29 AM

Sometimes luck, sometimes skill.

As tempting as it is, I rarely strip all the cockpit armor unless I absolutely have to, such as on a tricked out light, even then I've been head shot more than once while running and maneuvering in a fast light.

Probably more than half my headshots were just because the cockpit happens to be in the middle on that specific mech.





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