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[CFC Conky]

I'm not sure I follow you.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

[PocketYoda]

Both teams should be forced into the same tonnage.. but it makes the games wait longer.

[Marcel Leander]

Gonna post the deets so people can more clearly see exactly what you're talking about. There's a 50 ton difference between the two teams. That's an entire medium mech.

Red

WHM-IIC Assault 80
BNC Assault 95
HTM Assault 80
TNS Heavy 75

KFX Light 30
CN9 Medium 50
FLE Light 20
CN9 Medium 50

CDA Medium 40
SDR Light 30
RVN Light 35
HLF Heavy 60

4xLight 3xMedium 2xHeavy 3xAssault
Total 645 Tons
__________

Blue

ACH Light 30
CRD Heavy 65
FLE Light 20
FLE Light 20

SMN Heavy 70
VGL Medium 55
RVN Light 35
FS9 Light 35

RGH Heavy 65
GHR Heavy 70
BL-KNT Heavy 75
SHD Medium 55

5xLight 2xMedium 5xHeavy 0xAssault
Total 595 Tons

[Marcel Leander]

Lockheed_, on 02 July 2023 - 08:24 PM, said:

You can't just look at tonnage. If you have a 4 stack of top tier light pilots vs a 4 stack of a bunch of mechdads who grouped up for some beers, memeing and lurming in Fafnirs, the outcome has nothing to do with tonnage.
Another reason is players doing better in other weight classes. For example, you don't want me in an assault on your team if you want to win.

That may be, but I'm pretty sure the match maker doesn't take into account your skill in the particular weight class you're in. Sure, you still have your PSR but does MM drop your total weight for the team based on your collective tier values?

[Saved By The Bell]

Just run to better map.
Canyon is very popular thought its the most high-skill map.

Edited by Saved By The Bell, 02 July 2023 - 10:32 PM.

[Karhyy]

Marcel Leander, on 02 July 2023 - 08:09 PM, said:

There's a 50 ton difference between the two teams. That's an entire medium mech.

Funny part is that 50ton difference is relatively small compared to what the MM usually throws at you. Last week when I bothered to do the math after I had a match that felt bit odd and the result was 110ton difference. Needless to say which side stomped I'd wager.
I'm willing to bet stuff like this happens way too often, but it's not like people are going to whip out their calculators after every match.

[sycocys]

Your team had a very solid mobility advantage on a map that mobility can really offset the match, if the 10 that did under 300 damage did 100-150 more you'd have won that match pretty handily.

[TheCaptainJZ]

Maybe it's wrong to try and put groups on both teams. Maybe matches would be better if you match solos--with similar PSR and tonnage--against groups that can range so much in tonnage. A group of two can be two lights or two assaults, I think. But the MM tries to put a group on either side as "balanced". Maybe this isn't really the best.

[Tarl Cabot]

Negative, change the group make up from tonnage to 1/mech class, and if keeping max 4/group ( imho drop it to max 3) then treat 3-man as 4-man, only allow 2*2-man to group up. After a month or two, switch from team tonnage to each team having matching weight classes.

[pbiggz]

the check engine light, on 02 July 2023 - 06:24 PM, said:

Force groups to run max tonnage or near max.

Yeah i dont think there's realistically anything that can be done here.

Besides half of this forum will insist a group of lights is an existential, unkillable threat.

[fragmented]

sycocys, on 03 July 2023 - 09:33 AM, said:

Your team had a very solid mobility advantage on a map that mobility can really offset the match, if the 10 that did under 300 damage did 100-150 more you'd have won that match pretty handily.

I call anything under 300 damage ******** the bed, and I'm not immune to it myself If everyone can dish out 300 damage in the mech they're in the match will be won, and if not, it will at least be a close game.

Seeing people die in the first minute or two of the round is usually the decider on matches.

[crazytimes]

Why? There's nothing wrong with this at all...

[SafeScanner]

ugh "conquest" wheres my wooden stake and garlic

[crazytimes]

SafeScanner, on 04 July 2023 - 10:41 PM, said:

ugh "conquest" wheres my wooden stake and garlic

I'm not a huge fan of conquest, but imagine being a troll group of lights, winning the vote for conquest, and then dying whilst capping the first point though...

[SafeScanner]

crazytimes, on 04 July 2023 - 10:50 PM, said:

I'm not a huge fan of conquest, but imagine being a troll group of lights, winning the vote for conquest, and then dying whilst capping the first point though...

that bad....did they go for theta? (middle) either way you won as they say "you just need the enemies to be worse than you/your team"

[RickySpanish]

It's a skill issue in that pic, OP. Merata Kell is a substantially better pilot than the Clch players in that game, and that's just one of the good players on the winning team. They even had a 1 player disadvantage vs you, which is usually a death knell for any team. You guys could have out-tonned them and probably still lost.

Edited by RickySpanish, 05 July 2023 - 07:31 AM.

[RickySpanish]

the check engine light, on 05 July 2023 - 10:03 AM, said:

I don't think Mayrum disconnected until after he died.

Aah yeah that makes sense. Poor lad had only a small amount of damage dealt so I just assumed it was an accidental DC.

[Star Lit Night]

Instead of CryEngine. they should have named it CryBabyEngine

I've never seen a more dedicated group of entitled complainers.

What I see is a group of lights who could have wrecked the OpFor, but failed to do "light things", and 3 people on Red Team accounted for most of the work.

Except for those 3 people, the rest need to "Git Gud Noobes", put on a fresh pair of big girl panties, and stop hiding behind eachother.

And stop blaming the match maker for your own falings.

[Chloe Cole Kerensky]

Edited by Chloe Cole Kerensky, 05 July 2023 - 02:12 PM.

[feeWAIVER]

That's an embarrassing scoreboard.

I'll just say without shaming anyone, if you're playing 600+ games in a month, maybe it's time to take a break, go to Walmart and get you a nice new clean pack of socks to poop in. Take a shower, too. I can smell you from here.